J, I wasn't referring to you when I was takling about not being able to tell the two apart. It was in reference to those that told you about the cross. As for feeding out of your hand that's how I fed all my snakes. Of course I had to take the mice out of the freezer and warm them up in the microwave. Believe me, you didn't train him, he was just doing what comes naturally. We're just the lucky ones who were smart enough to keep our fingers back.