JagMagMan i know you are trying to make a point but comparing a pellet gun to a 22-250 is ridiculous. I never said anyone was dumb and the person who made that statement was probably just trying to say that you have no idea what you are talking about when it comes to 22 centerfires for deer. I may be wrong but you have most likely never used one on a deer and have never seen one used on a deer, although i know SWAMPMAN sure hasnt because he does not allow them on his property. The point you are trying to make is based on second hand information and like i just said earlier i didnt ask for your oppinion on whether or not i should use a 22-250. I am not gonna tell you how to hunt and i dont expect you to tell me how to hunt either. I just tried to ask a simple question and this is what i get.