MB - I know I'm late here but have you checked out "Popeye" out near Kemmerer (Pronounced Kehmer not er er). Actually he's landlocked on public land but winters on (during hunt season naturally) Private land . 40+" outside with plenty of garbage and "perfect backs and fronts". Eastmans featured his daddy on one of their films. There's a whole lots of Legend Mulies out of that area. Plus out of Riverton Last year (2004 season) a 30 plus world record non typ taken by rifle. In my little area near Casper I have my eye on a 30+" 4X4 with lots of garbage and two 15" drop tines. They are out there folks but you have to do a BUNCH of scouting before you see them. OR (fortunately for me) Have a few landowner friends to help you out.