I'll have to jump on the "they don't shoot for crap" bandwagon. I've tried Barnes bullets in alot of different rifles over the years and never could get good groups. Maybe HDW is correct in his 'hunting' group size theory, and maybe I was expecting too much. I HAVE had good success with the new TSX bullets in my 300 RUM with BC's advice, so I may try them in other rifles. I guess I just feel why go with premium prices when I can get good performance and accuracy with Sierra's or Noslers.