I guess I have to put the elk back I shot growing up. I didn't use a big enough gun. It fell down dead, minimal trailing, I shot through the heart and lungs on all of them. I live in Michigan now but was raised in Utah. I hunted with a .264 win mag but my brother had a .270 win. I had to have enough shells before we left home, he could get shells any where. Neither of us ever thought we were under gunned shooting what we had at elk. I know it's an article of faith pontificated by gun writers today one needs at leat a .30 06 to kill elk, but I didn't find this to be so. A .270 with 140 grain Fail Safes or 150 grain Partions or my favorite bullet, an Triple Shock in 140 grains would send the largest bull to the great beyond with no problem. If I hit it right with my 6.5 x 55 or my 7.62x54 the elk will fall down. If I don't hit it in the same place with a .338 win mag, I get to trail. What's the difference?

Dr Fatguy