RE: recoil
I dunno, it may just be me, but I dont think I can say that I notice the recoils of alot of these rifles.....I consider a day at the range shooting the 30-30, 270, 06, 308, 20 ga, etc to be fun. I dont notice recoil until I shoot a hot 45-70 or a 12 ga pump with 3" slugs........Ive said this before, everything else is a vacation.