with all the talk of the rhino/nitro combo and the amazing patterns from that.......why not do that to your 3 or 3 1/2 inch 12ga???? thats the way to get a good pattern from all ive read and seen on every msg board ive looked at........never heard anyone complain.....think you can do it under 200 bucks.....thatll reach out n touch them from what i read.........WAY better patterns been posted then ive ever seen.........