Awwwwwwww Moose I was not being "defensive" but objective just like you. I said "thank you" for YOUR objective opinion but if your going to dish it out you have to be able to accept a little to ...thats all I was doing ... and WHAT are you smoking Bro ..there is NO way those deer YOU posted have the same amount of mass unless your seeing double or something. As for what my deer scored, to me score means very little because a "trophy" is in the eye of the beholder BUT in that you asked my deer scored 178 5/8 B&C gross NT ... 185 1/8 BTR composite and 173 5/8 offical not bad for a deer that was aged to be 8 to 9 years old ( only had 4 teeth) and only a 12in inside spread so your "guess" was ONLY about 20in off, I guess thats kinda close for a guy who scores a LOT of deer like you... AND if you get Big Buck magazine you can read about it this Junes edition or in Rack magazines November issue... hemmm seems SOMEONE must think it stands out !

Doc