I agree with you Len. Some people deserve to be treated "bad", I wouldn't let them screw you, ask them to leave. I don't go to a archery shop for many reasons. 1. I have to drive 45 minutes to get to one. 2. His prices are 20% higher than mail order 3. I get it faster through mail order than he does (He keeps almost no stock) 4. His technical help is about as useful as an owners manual. 5. I bought my bow there and he charges me 10 bucks an hour to shoot[:'(]. 6. When I ask him to order something, he ask me why I want that, I shoot this... If I ask for your opinion you give it, if not don't make smart comments about how "dumb" I am for wanting it. I don't knock going to a shop, I just don't have a good one to go too. If you were around here I would go to you. You know what you are about, and that is part of your price.