Adams I think you are pretty funny. We saw that buck twice in the early morning. He was about 50 yards away and came no closer. If we shoot him this year he will blow away the buck shot in Iowa. We keep tring to get pictures of him but never can because he is either to far or it is to dark. We are going to put up trail cameras this year and I know we will get him on camera so I can prove you wrong and show you we have a buck that big![8D] I like all the bucks I've seen so far and I hope to see some more.