Our club store used to carry Rio's. They were pretty inexpensive and alot of the members used them because of the cost. Last year, our club threw 2.2 million targets. That's alot of Rio's! My only real complaint was I'd get (more than normal) chamber flash out of my 11-87. Course, you don't notice that with an O/U. We've since changed to Remington 'Gun Club' shells for our cheap loads, and I think only because we get them for less.