I have shot bonning (spelling) vanes for about 15 years. I have not had any real problems but thought there must be something better out by now. I bought 200 Duravanes and BOY was I dissapointed. They are good flying vanes but just touch one with a field point and it rips a hole. I even filed the points off and was really proud of myself until one of the arrows in the first group got a big hole in it.<img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle> I will use these up,which shouldn't take to long at the rate I'm ripping them up,and NEVER buy any more. Anybody got a good suggestion on a good durable vane.