and its not like were in the midwest id beleive a 25 out there probably and my dad and the freinds we go camping with they said they probly got 60 in the past 20 yrs and only hunting 3-4 days a trip we go to delawre county which was #1 inthe state but now alot of pressure the road is about 6+miles long and they used to be able to hunt all of it now about the 1st 1/4 but the hunting in cayuga county is getting better ...cant complain just wished when im older id be able to bring my kdis down there like my dad bring me


ttyl -tim