I agree with Triple Se7en.. of all the store bought roundballs I have shot, and that includes Remington, Hornady, Buffalo, and Speer... I always got the best group with Speer. Now I shoot homecasted roundball and actually they work real good. All of the store bought roundballs shot excellent, a deer would have never know the difference actually but the Speer in tests I conducted a number of summers ago shot the best overall group on paper....