interesting results Mark.. I was under the impression that it was a lot more powerful then the Triple Se7en. I never really considered Triple Se7en all that dirty in my Wolverine II. Granted I have to swab more often but I do not see that as a big deal.

It's interesting that you shoot almost the exact same load out of your American as I do my Wolverine II. Today I was shooting the Wolverine II without the RED DOT or any optics other then the fiber optic sights. I was tempted to mount a scope on this rifle but was really impressed with the accuracy of the rifle with the open sights.

I shot some 250 grain T/C mag express XTP's with 85 grains of Goex 3f and then I tried 100 grains of Clean Shot FFg. Both loads shot great and the rifle handled them just fine. I have some of the 300 grain XTP's ordered and I want to get a new pound of AAP since my Clean Shot is so old....

Again, interesting test results. I will look forward to more information from you on this..

thanks