I shot them(3-1/2" #5 shot heavywieght) with Mossy 835/ Jellyhead .690 choke and they shot better tighter pattern than Rem's.

At 30 yds, they practically blew turkey head on target away completely, at 40...about 30-35 in head neck area.

I will say they seemed to kick like a mule compared to the rem's also though and my friend said the same of his.