Arthur-I got new bow 'cause I'm getting older and the letoff makes me better at getting the shot I want. I don't even know what speed it's shooting. I agree on the rifle stuff but still shoot one on occasion. Right on about getting close. I am a creeper and ground hunt and if I don't kill it's Ok 'cause I love to get within smell range of an elk. Just love to walk the woods at dark and set up in a thicket and it's the best way to make it a personal challenge for me. I bet most of the people here feel the same way about the hunt but ethics are very different for all. It's the indians and not the arrows. Good fall to you all.