i tryed the new loads outa my 835 and at 40 yds 3 1/2 in shell shot the wad through the my paper turkeys head gives a pretty good pattern about 30-45 pellets in the head and neck with a jelly head choke not sure compaired to hevi loads are to expensive just to shoot at paper.But the flightwads are pretty good



"ITS CALLED HUNTING NOT SHOOTING"