I don't know. One of my friends has a Hi-Point, and at first I didn't think it was quite as ugly as a Glock. Of course, your opinion changes a little after you shoot it. More Failure to Feeds and Failure to Fires than you can count. And the bullets tumble, so you can't hit the broadside of a barn. Its a nice sized carry gun, but about the only way you could defend yourself is if you hit the perp on the head with it. It's almost a bad deal, and he got it for free. Shoot it for a while, and it will become the ugliest gun you've ever seen.