Oldgrunt,
i have the utmost respect for both. I'm ashamed I didn't know about Chuck Mawhinney because I try never to shoot off my mouth without having a firm basis for it. I'm wrong this time. I thank you for pointing it out. I agree That Gunny Hathcock was and is "the man", I can say that becuase his son is now Gunny Hathcock. Semper FI.