gahunter, we must think alike. I am going to get a new bow soon because my old jennings is way too slow 198fps and it also drops about 3 feet at 30 yards, i have shoot about 20 bows the last couple weeks and i loved the martin mag phantom, the hoyt magnatec was nice but had a buzz in the riser that would of went away with some add on`s, both bows were in my price range too. but i did shoot the q2 sunday a buddy had and it was sweet but I can`t seem to get over all the hype about mathews seems everyone has to have one and I can`t be like them. I want a great bow but it seems you have to pay 500 or everyone else looks dwn on you. but I think screw them, just get what you want and when they see your pict of that p&y record ,make them eat cake

evan