45-70 or 450 marlin?
#23
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: woodbury CT woodbury ct
Posts: 221
RE: 45-70 or 450 marlin?
buddy of mine shot a doe with his 450 (350gr) just kinda punched a hole through it. he wasn;t impressed with the "devastating shock and torment" he hoped for, but i had to remind him that was a deer that dressed out at 120lbs. no time for anything to happen just in and out, and besides the deer took a half a step and fell over. i think as big as the round is and as much as it kicks and all that crap it's still a modest round that does was it's supposed to without all the hoopla and hype, i also saw the same year a deer roughly 200lbs shot with a 7stw at about 65yards. i could tie the foreleg in a knot!!! that deer didn;t go anywhere either but IMO just a good portion of the deer got tossed in the can cause of the bullet damage.
which every gun you pick you got a good one. just keep the stalks as close as you can get and you'll do go.
which every gun you pick you got a good one. just keep the stalks as close as you can get and you'll do go.
#24
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Colorado
Posts: 220
RE: 45-70 or 450 marlin?
NH,
I have both in the Marlin lever gun. I have shot buffalo ammo in my .45/70 and it does pack a whallop....about that of the .450.
Three years ago I whacked a coyote with the .45/70. Very littly pelt damage and he never knew what happened. I suspect part of that had to do with bullet selection. I used Barnes X. I think a couple of other posters have said that the .45/70 is easier to find ammo for...I gotta agree with that. I load for everything I have so it doesn't matter much to me, but, I just like to shop around. .45/70 ammo is not only easier to find but it is a bunch cheaper than .450.
hope this helps
I have both in the Marlin lever gun. I have shot buffalo ammo in my .45/70 and it does pack a whallop....about that of the .450.
Three years ago I whacked a coyote with the .45/70. Very littly pelt damage and he never knew what happened. I suspect part of that had to do with bullet selection. I used Barnes X. I think a couple of other posters have said that the .45/70 is easier to find ammo for...I gotta agree with that. I load for everything I have so it doesn't matter much to me, but, I just like to shop around. .45/70 ammo is not only easier to find but it is a bunch cheaper than .450.
hope this helps
#25
RE: 45-70 or 450 marlin?
Gentlemen, It is funny when a scope comes back and busts an eyebrow - except when its your eyebrow.
I have a guide gun in .45-70 and I won't part with it. I did take the scope off however. Not because it whacked me, but because where I hunt shots are almost always less than 100 yds. I replaced the scope with a Williams peep sight. Its quick and accurate.
I was deciding betwee these 2 cartridges too until I did some research. The cost of ammo for th 450 is high and the availability at the time was low.
Because I reload, I can get all the components and Juice this old cartridge up to a very potent round.
I have a guide gun in .45-70 and I won't part with it. I did take the scope off however. Not because it whacked me, but because where I hunt shots are almost always less than 100 yds. I replaced the scope with a Williams peep sight. Its quick and accurate.
I was deciding betwee these 2 cartridges too until I did some research. The cost of ammo for th 450 is high and the availability at the time was low.
Because I reload, I can get all the components and Juice this old cartridge up to a very potent round.
#26
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: New Goucester Maine
Posts: 264
RE: 45-70 or 450 marlin?
the 450 marlin has more kick and more energy. i'm not sure how accurate teh 450 is but you should go with teh 45-70 government because of ammo availibility and it is provent to take all animals in the US.