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Old 12-13-2004, 10:33 PM   #11
 
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Default RE: whats the difference between .308 and a 7.62mm X 39mm, or are they the same?

is it possible that the worlds most popular cartridge aside from the 7.62x39 (AK round) would be the 308, or 7.62 NATO? kind of like how the .22lr is the most popular here, followed by the '06?
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Old 12-14-2004, 08:21 PM   #12
 
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Default RE: whats the difference between .308 and a 7.62mm X 39mm, or are they the same?

[quote]ORIGINAL: Nomercy

No, these two rounds are in NO WAY the same, nor interchangeable.

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The 7.62x39mm is a soviet cartridge that fires a 0.311" bullet.

Wrong it is 7.62 mm or 30 cal. or 0.308"

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The .308Winchester is interchangeable with the 7.62NATO, which are essentially identical in specs

True

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and is an american derivative of the .30-06 based around a .308" bullet...

Wrong again. Both the 30.06 & the .308 fire the same .308" diameter bullet.

7.62 x 39mm = 123g. at 2300 fps muzzle vel.
.308 = 7.62( NATO) x 51mm = 150g. at 2800 fps muzzle vel.
30.06 = 7.62 X 63mm = 150g. at 2900 fps muzzle vel.

Stats. are from Federal Ammo. site based on simular common rounds.
Note: only one round aval. for 7.62 X 39mm
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Old 12-19-2004, 08:22 PM   #13
 
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Default RE: whats the difference between .308 and a 7.62mm X 39mm, or are they the same?

For what it's worth: The 7.62 X 39 is on par, power wise, with the .30-30 Winchester. Both are way behind the .308 and way, way behind the
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Old 12-20-2004, 06:25 AM   #14
 
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Default RE: whats the difference between .308 and a 7.62mm X 39mm, or are they the same?

European cartridge designation makes more sense than the US designations, which don't mean anything. European designation is bullet diameter and length, expressed 7.62x39 (nominal .30 caliber bullet, case length is 39 mm). 7.62 Nato, AKA .308, is 7.62x51. the 7.62x54 noted above is actually 7.62x54R...the "R" designates a rimmed cartridge.
Just a quick look at the two cartridges in question will point out the different case sizes.
7.62x39, and 7.62x51.
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Old 01-02-2005, 08:09 PM   #15
 
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Default RE: whats the difference between .308 and a 7.62mm X 39mm, or are they the same?

the 308 still sucks, very accurate, but for hunting why not use a 30-06 if you want a 30 caliber bullet
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Old 01-02-2005, 08:13 PM   #16
 
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the 7.62x39 does fire a .311 bullet.....

The 7.62x39 Soviet (Model 43)
By Chuck Hawks



This attenuated .303 cartridge (bullet diameter is .311", not .308" like true 7.62mm rifles) has had one of the most infamous careers in the history of firearms. It was designed during the Great Patriotic War (World War II to those of us in the Free World) for use on the Eastern Front against Hitler's Wehrmacht by Stalin's Communist hoards.

(rest of article) http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache...B7.62x39&hl=en
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Old 01-02-2005, 08:44 PM   #17
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the 308 still sucks, very accurate, but for hunting why not use a 30-06 if you want a 30 caliber bullet
Because I like a short action and I can do anything with a 308 that you can with an 06 as far as deer hunting goes.
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