New Project In My Brain!!
12-24-2016, 07:04 PM
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Nontypical Buck
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New Project In My Brain!!
Well, I am officially fully retired and I told the boys and girl that they are on their own with the buiss!! So that means lots of time to pester the wife and look for things to do with my time!!! Since pestering the wife can reach dangerous levels, I'm choosing the finding things to do with my time!! (she's little but mean!!) I've got an idea in my brain for a fast twist .50!!! 1:20 to handle long big full bore bad boys! Thinking about having one made for the TC frame rather than buying an Ultra or some such. I THINK Pac-nor can do that. May just have to have the barrel made and then fitted by TC or some such. Don't know the details yet as this really just popped into my tiny little mind. I want a barrel that is rated for smokeless since it's going on my TC frame but will probably rarely, if ever use smokeless. Just having that option for giggles! SO,, who on here has had this same idea and followed through with this absurd notion and tell me if I am on the right track or 100% demented?? I am basically wanting a beast to reach out and put the hammer of Thor on any animal walking this planet out to 250-300 yards. What say ye!!
12-25-2016, 07:53 AM
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I really would not go to a 1-20 although i have heard of a couple 50cal 1-20s on Rem or Savage actions. A 50cal 1-24 will stabilize a 600gr conical. That load will be very rough on the shoulder in the lighter Encore. IIRC Pacnor does offer a 50cal 1-20 as well as Douglas and McGowen. Match Grade Machine can build it for you. They are currently making some nice 45 Encore barrels using Brux but im told if they can get the blank then they can build it. Brux can pretty much make any twist since they are cut rifled.
White rifle settled on the 1-24 for 50cals and they shoot big lead remarkably well.
0.50/600 120 Pyro P 1265fps 2132fpe
White rifle settled on the 1-24 for 50cals and they shoot big lead remarkably well.
0.50/600 120 Pyro P 1265fps 2132fpe
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12-25-2016, 08:21 AM
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Maybe this will help clear his head.
A custom MGM Brux barrel will run you around $900 for the Encore.
A Bullberry will run you about $660 and i think that is for a smoker Green Mountain 1-28 barrel so add in who knows how much additional $$$$ for a Pacnor 1-20
SMI is the cheapest at $400 using a Douglas barrel but 1-36 is the standard twist and there have been quite a few negative reviews in the last couple years related to customer service and communication. Longer than promised wait times will only be worse with a custom order barrel such as a 1-20.
Right now you can buy a 45cal 1-20 Brux for Encore that will handle smokeless for under $900. It has no problem hitting 2500fps with a 275gr bullet. I know of 2 vendors that have them ready to ship with tungsten carbide bushings in the breach plug. One even offers a LRMP ignition system instead of a 209. These barrels will easily handle a 45cal 500gr conical and probably a little larger. You could easily order one in 1-18 and wait a little longer.
A custom MGM Brux barrel will run you around $900 for the Encore.
A Bullberry will run you about $660 and i think that is for a smoker Green Mountain 1-28 barrel so add in who knows how much additional $$$$ for a Pacnor 1-20
SMI is the cheapest at $400 using a Douglas barrel but 1-36 is the standard twist and there have been quite a few negative reviews in the last couple years related to customer service and communication. Longer than promised wait times will only be worse with a custom order barrel such as a 1-20.
Right now you can buy a 45cal 1-20 Brux for Encore that will handle smokeless for under $900. It has no problem hitting 2500fps with a 275gr bullet. I know of 2 vendors that have them ready to ship with tungsten carbide bushings in the breach plug. One even offers a LRMP ignition system instead of a 209. These barrels will easily handle a 45cal 500gr conical and probably a little larger. You could easily order one in 1-18 and wait a little longer.
Last edited by Gm54-120; 12-25-2016 at 08:35 AM.
12-25-2016, 08:28 AM
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Nontypical Buck
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I really would not go to a 1-20 although i have heard of a couple 50cal 1-20s on Rem or Savage actions. A 50cal 1-24 will stabilize a 600gr conical. That load will be very rough on the shoulder in the lighter Encore. IIRC Pacnor does offer a 50cal 1-20 as well as Douglas and McGowen. Match Grade Machine can build it for you. They are currently making some nice 45 Encore barrels using Brux but im told if they can get the blank then they can build it. Brux can pretty much make any twist since they are cut rifled.
White rifle settled on the 1-24 for 50cals and they shoot big lead remarkably well.
0.50/600 120 Pyro P 1265fps 2132fpe
White rifle settled on the 1-24 for 50cals and they shoot big lead remarkably well.
0.50/600 120 Pyro P 1265fps 2132fpe
I not cwazy,,,no sir I not!!!
12-25-2016, 08:33 AM
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Maybe this will help clear his head.
A custom MGM Brux barrel will run you around $900 for the Encore.
A Bullberry will run you about $660 and i think that is for a smoker Green Mountain 1-28 barrel so add in who knows how much additional $$$$ for a Pacnor 1-20
SMI is the cheapest at $400 using a Douglas barrel but 1-36 is the standard twist and there have been quite a few negative reviews in the last couple years related to customer service and communication. Longer than promised wait times will only be worse with a custom order barrel such as a 1-20.
A custom MGM Brux barrel will run you around $900 for the Encore.
A Bullberry will run you about $660 and i think that is for a smoker Green Mountain 1-28 barrel so add in who knows how much additional $$$$ for a Pacnor 1-20
SMI is the cheapest at $400 using a Douglas barrel but 1-36 is the standard twist and there have been quite a few negative reviews in the last couple years related to customer service and communication. Longer than promised wait times will only be worse with a custom order barrel such as a 1-20.
12-25-2016, 10:08 AM
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Here is the main problem for shooting BMG type bullets. An Encore barrel is 1.0" OD. To get a bullet of that type obturate into the rifling you will need a REALLY stout load of powder. You could certainly full form the bullets( pre engrave the rifling in a die) but you will still have some crazy high pressures for a 1"OD barrel with a .510 groove.
A Rem action can support upto a 1.2"+ barrel OD and yes a 50cal BMG type ML has been done. I cant remember what action was used though. It could have even been a Savage slug gun action. I cant remember.
A Rem action can support upto a 1.2"+ barrel OD and yes a 50cal BMG type ML has been done. I cant remember what action was used though. It could have even been a Savage slug gun action. I cant remember.