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that sounds like fun....I guess helmets would be good for horses too....but that would make it no fun if you had to do that....did you get bucked off and stepped on?

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oh yea....I do believe in God...but to each his own...everyone has a choice whether to believe or deny the existence of God...and more power to them! I would fit into a strang minority of Christians, I don't go to church and don't want to. I actually find most Christians to be shallow and uneducated about the Bible and have a very simplistic and condemning view of others

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Mine was for lung disease. Thank the Lord nothing was there.

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HG and Brutal,

OKay when I'm rich and famous, i'm going to buy you two big houses full of rubber walls :D

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no i was training a new horse and he kinda freaked out on me, reared up and slammed his two front feet right in the top of my head... good thing i'm too stupid to lose anymore brain cells or we'd all be in trouble!;)

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lol well i'm glad you weren't seriously hurt though sis **hugs**

OKay forget the rubber walls, i'm gonna buy you a helmet :D

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I'm just gonna say this. I beleive in God and I dont care if yall dont I aint gonna force stuf on you.When I die I'm goin to heavenbut whenthe non beleiversdietheir gonna have to answer to the maker and if you havent got things right with Him i feel sorry for you cause non believers dont go to heaven.

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thats ok eli... i'm a firefighter... i'd be much more comfortable in hell anyway

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I agree with eli243. When the Lord comes back in all his glory and majesty, which I believe is very soon, I will go to live with the Lord for eternity. And any who have not accepted Christ as their Savior before the judgement day will be separated from Him for eternity. It's a place of everlastingtorment, nashing of teeth and agony. For those who don't trust in Christ as their personal Savior, I hope that you will change you're mind before it is to late.
Acts 16:31 They replied,"Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved-you and your household."
John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

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I do and always will.

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Okay did BBS have a new upgrade or is my computer messing up again?

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I believe in God because I have saw him. You might be skeptical of me as a non believer and say that youve never saw him. No eyes can see God, but if you look with your heart you will clearly see him.

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I think they had an upgrade Redhawk, my puter looks a little funky too.

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I do even though I never show it or act like it.

Besides, how else would we have been put here?

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ok, i believe in evolution, i believe in god.
who can't believe in evolution when evolution is happening around us every day. very slowly, but it happens. (you don't need to have an o prestigious major in anthropology to know that one) and it totally makes sense to. things adapt to their surroundings, and their body and bodily functions change to match those surroundings the best they possibly can. that can looked at a very simple explanation of races. people living in africa became darker skinned in order to resist the heat of the sun. an african americans skin is equivilant to spf 500. evolution is basically a genetic changing of a trait. and however slowly that may occur, it does happen. statistics say we are a much taller society than a few hundred years ago. a trait has transformed to somehow match our surroundings. and as hunting girl said, there were dinosaurs, there are skeletons of neandrethals and such. but that still doesn't mean that god couldn't have put this all into action. i believe in more of the catholic belief of the bible, that being to not take it literally, but live by the lessons it teaches. because if the bible really was to be taken literally, and anyone who has read the whole bible looking for accuracy, theyd see it is totally innacurate. the bible says the world is flat and this and that. and thats just on the first few pages. the bible is not to be taken literally, but the teachings are. its like teaching a kid a lesson in life by reading him a childrens book about not lying or something. or how to better stay organized kind of books, but being told how through story.

to all the people who don't believe in god, just take note that you are trying to prove us wrong too, its a two sided thing, so stop acting like your a victim. and for those who say there is no evidence, there is a TON of evidence. the shrouds with jesus's face/body on it is just one example. it can't be proven or disproven authentic by either side, but its still tangible evidence.

but think where everything came from, and how it got here, all of you "history or science majors" would say big bang or some other theory, but how did that theory play out. we just can not understand how things work. why is it that humans are the only beings with true logic instead of instinct? think of how our brains allow us to think, just think how the process of evolution work, no scientist has even close to all the answers. "the more you know, the more you know how much you don't know"

and it seems that there is like a core of 5 or 6 people on this board that just back eachother up nonstop, and are just arrogant to everyone elses opinions. nobody is trying to convert you. just trying to provoke a little thought.

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plus, for all those who don't believe that there is a god because too much bad stuff happens...

if you've truly read the bible huntinggirl, you'd know that god doesnt interfere and CANNOT interfere with what happens on earth. he doesnt give people disease, he doesnt kill people, our own actions and our own decisions and other peoples decisions and actins kill people, and bring on disease. some people are dealt the short end of the stick. just shows us to be thankful for what we have. we have free will. what ever happens is a direct or indirect result from what someone either in the present or in the past has done. which is the exact reason why we need to live good, responsable lives. because who knows,your one little irresponsable act could negatively effect thousands in the future. either mentally, or physically.

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Some good posts in here, at least i don't have to edit or delete anything so that's good :D

And i was talking to someone in admins. they upgrade it so the chatroom should be working now

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i know i havnt posted in forever

pdoughertyMu

There are hundreds of occasions where God did something that had an impact on peoples lives in the Bible and even today. and lets see he is God right? He created everything right? So if hes God then he can do whatever the heck he wants. There is no cannot with God. Actually God must allow everything that happens. He does not cause it but satan does. satan must first be allowed to commit these things by God. This is clearly seen in the story of Job.

Please give me the verse that says the world is flat. Along with several other of the inaccuarcies.

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HELLO?!??!! the 7 plagues??? didn't that kinda have an impact on people's lives??? he kinda interfered there didn't he??? whoa... guess somebody needs to check his own book

and i'm not afraid of any of you converting me... because you never will... i don't believe in life after death, i don't believe in the dead coming back to life or 'resurrecting' or any of that jazz... was there a jesus? i don't know, i wasn't alive back then... i've never seen a miracle, i've seen science hard at work... i've brought people back with my own two hands... thats pretty damn special don't you think?? hmm... maybe if i grow a beard and walk around in a white robe then people will follow me too?? just maybe??

i don't believe in any of that holier than thou crap... i've studied a ton of religions... wanna know what i think? i think they evolved just like people evolved from the muck and slime... why are we so smart? i don't know... personally i think animals are smarter... but then again why are slugs so dumb? or are they dumb? maybe they're the ones who WE should be bowing down to... but wait... science can tell me that they aren't smart... or at least not as developed... how far do you have to go in life before you're considered smart anyway? i know some pretty stupid people... they'll never change...

ok.. rant is finished

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HELLO! maybe if you read that i said the book is symbolic...not to be taken literally....it's full of story's used to teach us a lesson. because not even god would just go kill a bunch of innocent kids because of what their parents have done..and just spare the jews. the old testament and the new have conflicting messages, the old is more eye for an eye, while the new is more turn the other cheek.

settle down....see, you start turning things into an argument instead of a discussion.


i do not see how you can say we are not the smartest. we are at the top of the foodchain. we can use our surroundings to create absolutely anything we want. we can kill things 100x stronger and bigger and deadlier than ourselves with only one of us and what we create. that is how we are smarter..you know what.. maybe there is no god, maybe there is. but its something or someone that we have used to explain the unexplainable. and for now, thats the reason i believe in. ill be the last person to say im holier than anybody else. you just put words in my mouth.

we are the ultimate survivors and the ultimate adapters. we occupy every continent of the world except for one, which some people still go on and im sure there are people there now. id like to see an argument on how animals are smarter. because i personally do not see how anyone can say that.

some bibles show a sketch of what the world looked like according to the writers of the bible. check to see if your bible has that. its in the book of genesis, where it talks about creating the world. or how about jonah being inside of a live whale for a while, or noah taking 2 of every species of animal on the arc while the entire world flooded. just stuff like that. its impossible. but it teaches a lesson on how to live. ill look some more concrete historical ones up tonight if i have nothing to do, because i know it has a lot of them, i just don't memorize bible versus or anyting. haha. but i went to a catholic school for 12 years and we studied all this stuff every day.

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I have to agree with a lot of HG89's comments. With the way religion is today it is mainly all scams to get your money and if you dont go to church or put money in the plate then you are below the people who do.[:@][:@][:@][:@][:@]That is flat out BULL$!!! Church people are sometimes the biggest hippocrits there are. Ill stick to just being the best person I can be.

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and you know what, i agree with you psycho 100%. but that doesn't mean all people who believe in god are like that..

i don't believe in religion. religion is like a cult, they tell you what to believe in stead of believing what you believe.

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i agree with you pdougherty... if you are going to believe in something, you don't need anybody but you telling you what you should and should not do... your own moral standards should be enough and your gut instincts should be valid... not somebody else's

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not anymore we aren't... if we were stripped of everything we created, electricity, running water, ect., 1/3 of the population wouldn't survive... we once were great.. humanity has fallen from greatness and is now just a power of destruction... but there are some good things left... like love and respect... but only two at a time can share such a thing, and the human race as a whole is still very ugly

animals have one thing we dont. common sense. stupidity is the number one killer of humans. animals lack that quality. they don't stare at your truck carreening toward them because they're stupid... nature tells them to freeze, not to draw attention to themselves.

we aren't at the top of the food chain, we removed ourselves from it a long time ago. we're no longer a part of it and everybody gets so upset when a bear or a mountain lion kills and eats a person. if we were still a part of the food chain, this would be accepted that we die too. but humans do not accept that. if a wolf picks off a child in a community, that entire pack is hunted down and killed. food chain? i think not... genocide? i think yes.

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Okay i confuss...this is more exciting then soap operas :D

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well said ;)

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but thats what im saying, animals don't have common sense, they do what nature tells them. standing in front of a truck while its comming at you is not common sense, its instinct. animals don't have logic, otherwise they would have learned that if they see something with unnatural light coming at them theyd move. now dogs and such can learn a command or a trick because you reward or punish for not doing what you tell them repeatedly and repeatedly, hundreds of times untill they get it. for instance, if you, not knowing what a gun was, saw somebody pick it up and shoot themself with it and die, would you pick it up and point it at yourself? you wouldnt, because you have logic and reasoning abilities. but a deer can see their fellow deer get hit by a car, and might do the same thing a day later. which is a terrible thought, but its how it works

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Im going to agree with pdoughertyMUthis time. Animals dont have common sense. And we are still part of the food chain, we have just gainedthe trait of having a vendetta or you can say it is protecting our young like a bear or wolf would do. Whales are able tohold a grudge why not humans?

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i belive it's a good feeling.

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i believe i can fly.

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I personally believe there is a God. I also believe and trust in Jesus Christ as my personal Lord and Savior. I do not try to force my beliefs on anyone in anyway, but I believe what I believe no matter what someone may say. Like I saidI do not force my beliefs on anyone BUT, if someone wants to hear what and why I believe I will tell them and I will be honest. Personally, I believe thatas a follower of Christ, I am to help spread His gospel. He says in His word to "feed my sheep". Now, I also know that not everybody believes this way and everybody doesnt want to hear about it, and if they dontI think thats absoulutely fine and they shouldn't have it "forced" on them. I think sometimes christians think that when they speak to a person about Christ that they "have" to be saved or they have failed in their purpose. But that is not true. "We" as christians DO NOT do the saving part, that is the work of the Holy Spirit. We are onlyinstruments in Gods work. I'll try to hurry up and make my point, I know alot of you dont want to hear this "Jesus this and Jesus that stuff". Really bad things happen to "good" people in this world, I know that, but why it happens I dont know. I have never claimed to have an answer for this. But the way I believe is that none of us on this earth deserve anything good, we were all "born into sin" when we were born (again, this is what I believe, I know alot of you wont agree with this but thats ok). I'm not saying that people who have bad things happen to them get what they deserve, I'm not saying that at all. All I know is this, I personally deserve nothing but to be thrown in the lowest pits of hell because of my sinful nature, and it is ONLY through the saving blood of Jesus Christ that I can live today. I've been an ER nurse for about 7-8 years. I've worked in several different ER's over the south. From level 1 trama centers, to level 4 bandaid stations. I've seen childeren die, I've heard the screams of family members that have lost loved ones, and I've felt the pain of people who had to hear the word "cancer" pertaining to themselves for the first time. No, this world is not fair and as humans when things like this happen we want to find someone or something to blame. Usually the first is God, because its always said "Why would God, who is supposed to love us let things like this happen. I guess He's not so great after all."I know this because I used to be one of those people. Again I cant explain why things happen like they do. All I can focus on is that there is more to life than what we see, hear and feel on this earth. I believe there is God and sometimes I dont understand why things happen like they do, but I believe one day I will. Sorry to be so longwinded, I know alot of you wont read this because its so long, but let me make one point very clear..... I did not put this on hear to try to "convert" people, I put it on here because its what I believe and feel. Everyone on this board is going to believe what they want and I do not believe in punishing someone for havingdifferent beliefsthan mine, so this was not intented to change peoples minds but if it does, good. I've had several really bad things happen to me in my life, much like the rest of you but it isONLY in the arms of Christ thatI can find peace. I pray all of you have a good day.
I know this probably should have been in the religion forum, but anyway....

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savedbygrace, you said it very well for the Christians on this forum, including me. I'm sorry if I tried to "force" my religion on anyone. But the truth of the matter is that all men will be forced to give an account for the deeds they have commited. I was a sinner on my way to eternal judgement before I accepted the free gift that God had to offer to me and to all who will receive it. May the Lord bless you and keep you.

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Matthew V. I completely agree with what you say about everyone one day will have to give an account of their deeds. I guessI say what I say because I have known people that refused to believe in God because they say it was "forced" or "preached" to them.