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Tobe_B 11-30-2008 07:25 PM

Thinkin about an AR
 
I was thinking about getting an AR after the first of the year. Does anyone have one that they would recommend? Or more specifically, does anyone have a Bushmaster .223/5.56 or the .308, or know how they shoot? Thanks.

Retaks 12-01-2008 03:29 AM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 

ORIGINAL: Tobe_B

I was thinking about getting an AR after the first of the year. Does anyone have one that they would recommend? Or more specifically, does anyone have a Bushmaster .223/5.56 or the .308, or know how they shoot? Thanks.
Bushmasters are good. Rock Rivers are my favorite though. Get one in 5.56 if your going to. Or even the 223 Wylde chamber. I dont know exactly what your looking for to recomend a model for you but you should expect to pay between $1000-$1500 forone right now.

Tobe_B 12-01-2008 07:21 AM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 
Thats pretty much my price range. The only thing is, I am very apprehensive about the .223s and the 5.56s ability to take down hogs at long range, but the fact that there is follow up shot capability is kinda easying my mind on it, but I guess that if my shot placement doesn't completely stink, then I should be just fine.

skybuster20ga 12-01-2008 11:15 AM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 
my brother shot a guy w/ his bush master. it did the trick......[&:]

Retaks 12-01-2008 01:56 PM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 

ORIGINAL: Tobe_B

Thats pretty much my price range. The only thing is, I am very apprehensive about the .223s and the 5.56s ability to take down hogs at long range, but the fact that there is follow up shot capability is kinda easying my mind on it, but I guess that if my shot placement doesn't completely stink, then I should be just fine.
What do you consider long range? 200 yards it would be fine. Anything farther shot placement is key. To get it in 308 you would have to go to an AR10. AR15's come in many different calibers though. You just need to look around.

Tobe_B 12-01-2008 02:05 PM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 
Long range to me is anything over 300. I work at a ranch down on Palo Duro Canyon on the weekends and a lot of what I am doing is shooting hogs. I can get up to with about twenty yards during the day before I start shooting, but I want the ability to keep shooting and making lethal shots at ranges between 300 and 400 yards. I know the .223 has the ability go that far, but as for the punch at the other end, I don't really know if it has what it takes. But the .308 might, but I don't know because I have never even shot a .308, all I know is what the balistic charts tell me.

Retaks 12-01-2008 02:26 PM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 

ORIGINAL: Tobe_B

Long range to me is anything over 300. I work at a ranch down on Palo Duro Canyon on the weekends and a lot of what I am doing is shooting hogs. I can get up to with about twenty yards during the day before I start shooting, but I want the ability to keep shooting and making lethal shots at ranges between 300 and 400 yards. I know the .223 has the ability go that far, but as for the punch at the other end, I don't really know if it has what it takes. But the .308 might, but I don't know because I have never even shot a .308, all I know is what the balistic charts tell me.
A 308 has plenty for hogs out to 500 yards. I wouldnt push shots much farther then that. As for using an AR or any semi auto for shooting that far i would really not recomend it. The only AR style rifles ive seen capible of being accurate that thos ranges are high end bull barrel AR's in 223, or 223 Wylde chamber. I would get a good bolt gun if i was you.

Tobe_B 12-01-2008 02:46 PM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 
I've already got a .300 win mag, it does an amazing job, but it only holds three. And when hogs start running you don't have any time to reload, that's why I want something that shoots fast, hits hard enough, and holds bullets. I've thought about finding an AR that has a free floating bull barrel, do you know of any companies that make one?

Retaks 12-01-2008 03:14 PM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 
Rock River Arms. This would be your best bet for a long range gun but because of demand because of the elections they have been running just under $2000 for it. They do have a 1moa guarantee which would be good out to 400-500 yards on a hog.

http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category _id=257

Jome1 12-01-2008 04:19 PM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 
I have an AR and it shoots really nice its not a bushmaster. Its just a lower and upper from two different places and got it for around 600 dollars. They come alot ceaper if you buy a AR kit.

Tobe_B 12-01-2008 10:07 PM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 
I really like that idea about building my own. That thought had never even crossed my mind. Was it fairly easy to build it yerself?

Retaks 12-02-2008 02:57 AM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 

ORIGINAL: Tobe_B

I really like that idea about building my own. That thought had never even crossed my mind. Was it fairly easy to build it yerself?
Theya re very easy to build. If you do build one you will have to built it on a 5.56 lower so you will be limited to which rounds you can get uppers for. The 243, 308, 300 SAUM and similar rounds use a different lower.

Tobe_B 12-02-2008 06:46 AM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 
Is there not a company that I could buy the parts so that I could piece it together myself, that way I could go ahead and get it chambered in a .308?

Retaks 12-02-2008 03:08 PM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 

ORIGINAL: Tobe_B

Is there not a company that I could buy the parts so that I could piece it together myself, that way I could go ahead and get it chambered in a .308?
Not for anything that dosnt use a true 5.56 lower. Anything chambered for large rounds are made different by every company and 95% of aftermarket parts for AR15's wont fit.

Tobe_B 12-02-2008 08:39 PM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 
Thanks for that little tid bit Retaks, I was already looking into mixing and matching the uppers and lowers so I could build my own .308. But now that I know it most likely won't fit, I won't waste my time and money. Thanks again.

Retaks 12-03-2008 12:37 AM

RE: Thinkin about an AR
 
Here is a good list of what can be on an actual AR15 lower. All of these you could buy a parts set for the lower and buy an upper with this chamber. Any other round would not be an actual AR15. It would just eb an AR style rifle and most parts would not fit it.

AR-15, without bolt modification
.17 Remington
.20 Tactical
.204 Ruger
.221 Fireball
.222 Remington
.222 Remington Magnum
.223 Remington (5.56x45mm)
.223 Remington Ackley Improved
6x45mm
6mm Whisper
6.5mm Whisper
7mm Whisper
7mm TCU
.300 Whisper (.300/221, .300 Fireball)
.338 Whisper

AR-15, with bolt modification
223 WSSM
5.45x39mm (.21 Genghis)
243 WSSM
6mm PPC
6mm BR Remington
6.5mm PPC
6.5mm Grendel
25 WSSM
6.8x43mm SPC
.30 Herrett Rimless Tactical (6.8x43mm case trimmed to 41mm and necked up to .308; the 6.8mm version of the .300 Whisper)
7.62x39mm
.357 Auto
.458 SOCOM
.50 Action Express
.50 Beowulf

AR-15 using a simple blowback operation
.17 HMR
.22 LR
.22 WMR
9x19mm
40S&W
10mm Auto
45ACP



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