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Whats a good rifle for starters?
Whats a good rifle for starters?
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RE: Whats a good rifle for starters?
umm need a bit more info bud,. Age, size, what you will be hunting, what type of gun have you shot before, rifle or shotgun???
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RE: Whats a good rifle for starters?
age=13 height=5'5 weight=164 Im just looking for a a dependable rifle...i've shot a 12 gauge, a .22 ,and a 7mm...(i own all of them)
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RE: Whats a good rifle for starters?
What's wrong with the 7mm?
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RE: Whats a good rifle for starters?
get a .223 or a 22-250 or something and hunt some coyotes
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RE: Whats a good rifle for starters?
your 7mm is just fine.. BUT if u want sumthin new any decent 243, 270, 30- 06 will do just fine.. i own and prefer the 270 myself.. likley just because i own one though.. lol.. works fine though.. i have shot deer with it at 15 yards and out to 225.. but it will kill em at much farther than that also
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RE: Whats a good rifle for starters?
the 7mm will work for any thain you need to kill unless you live in africa but if you want something small get a browning or winchester youth model or if you biger you might not nead a youth model and get any thian from 223 to 270 i recomend a 243-243 wssm or 270-270 wsm
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RE: Whats a good rifle for starters?
i probably would get a 30-30.
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RE: Whats a good rifle for starters?
heck the 7mm with do the trick on deer, elk, moose bear, u got a .22 perfect for varmints, 12 gauge for birds and now just like what coyote buster said get yourself a .223, 22-250, .243 for coyotes and there is nothin in North America you wont beable to hunt, well unless you go for some alaskan/yukon moose and grizzs then i would suggest something a lil bigger then a 7mm but it would still do the trick
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RE: Whats a good rifle for starters?
nothin is wrong with my 7mm its my favorite rifle..im just lookin for a rifle that i could beat around with and is dependable and affordable. because i dont want to always use the 7mm cuz i want it to last
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RE: Whats a good rifle for starters?
30-30 lever action. good caliber and with lever actions you dont really have to worry about jamming quite as muchlike you do with semi-autos
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RE: Whats a good rifle for starters?
my first rifle was a 243 it is all around good gun ranging from deer to varmints
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I agree with the .243 choice,they are great accurate Rifles with less recoil and You can also use them for Predator Hunting.I've shot several nice Deer with my Browning A-bolt .243 and have taken several Coyotes with it in the past few years also.
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I would probably say a 243, and if you take care of the 7mm it will last you a lifetime. I have a friend with a gun that is 40 years old and it looks brand new.
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Originally Posted by TYLER_ROOKIE_HUNTER
(Post 2033456)
nothin is wrong with my 7mm its my favorite rifle..im just lookin for a rifle that i could beat around with and is dependable and affordable. because i dont want to always use the 7mm cuz i want it to last
i dont understand this. up here in maine is the thickest nastiest crap a man could hunt in w/ every type of terrain and climate imaginable and my rifles still look like they did when they come out of the box. unless you drag it behind you on a leash i wouldnt worry about it "lasting" or getting beat up. your hunting for god sakes not charging through the bushes like a damn elephant. i have a gun in the front seat of my truck year round and its not beat up at all. use the 7 mil and love that sucker! besides, 50 years from now when you grand kids are holding it they will wonder aboput each ding and dent and think about how much game that gun has killed. my 2 cents |
Great rifle for starters is a 25-06. Light recoil (light enough for a 10 year old) and will shoot flatter than a pool table. I'd stay away from a lever action (30-30) for a kid. It's too dangerous to load & go to half**** for safe. You have to pull the trigger while holding the hammer back, then slowly release it to half**** . Besides, they can be noisy!
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spend your money on a basic reloading kit. then you can kill everything from ground hogs to kodiaks w/ that 7mm and the right barnes bullet
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Take a peek at a variety of rifles. ie, Savage 110/111, Stevens 200, Weatherby Vanguard, Remington 700, Ruger 77, Winchester 70 etc... Find out what you like and what you're able to spend, then buy it! Er have the folks pick it up :D ! I'm such a fan of 7mms, (mostly the 7mm rem mag, 280 and 7mm-08) I wouldn't try and steer you elsewhere for a big game rifle. I can like having a nice gun and keeping it nice, and having another gun that you just don't care about beating up. For example, I have a Winchester model 1200 20 gauge that's in beautiful condition. It's close to 40 years old... When it comes time to hunt, I grab my nasty remington 870! :D
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Originally Posted by Buster5104
(Post 3791064)
Great rifle for starters is a 25-06. Light recoil (light enough for a 10 year old) and will shoot flatter than a pool table. I'd stay away from a lever action (30-30) for a kid. It's too dangerous to load & go to half**** for safe. You have to pull the trigger while holding the hammer back, then slowly release it to half**** . Besides, they can be noisy!
Oh I have just worked out why you have to half asterix your lever guns :lmao: Political correctness gone wrong |
i say just take care of your 7mm and use it. like skybuster20ga said, your not going to be army crawling in the mud or wading throw swamps. oil and clean before and after every use and it will always look new.
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well even if he does wade through swamps just dont use your gun as a wading staff, paddle, club or push pole and it will be fine.
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this is a perfect rifle for you. remmy model 7 chambered in .350 rem mag. will lay about anything down in the world from woodchucks and a 158gr hallow point to cape buffs w/ a 310gr woodleigh. but for hunitng everything inbetween counting coyotes, whitetailes, blackbear, moose or elk the simple 200gr ttsx will be perfect, period!
last years buck, the entrance was back behind the last rib and penitrated all the way up through the body and exited the left front side of his chest. on the run dead right there. barnes bullets at their finest ![]() |
First gun I shot with was a .30-30 rifle and I was 12 years old and probably a 100lbs. Then i moved right to a 7mm when I shot my moose and I was 13 then and not much heavier than I was before. As long as it fits right and they are able to control it then anything would work. I know that I have troubles with shooting some guns because my arms aren't long enough so you have to watch for length but other than that there shouldn't be a specific gun to start out with.
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question seems odd you are not really a starter but you asked about a rifle not a caliber so im going to have to say a remmington model 7 or 700 would be my choice preferably a model 7 for the type of hunting i do which is in cover and i do a lot of walking so weight and size matter full size 700 would be nice if your not walking to far and want a longer barrel
the concern you expressed about beating up your rifle my first thought is go synthetic that way you wont worry about beating it up but i for one cant stand synthetic so i would suggest buying a used gun that you wont want to cry when you scratch it or the wood wears from everyday carry i think its funny people saying you wont beat up your gun hunting, all of my rifles and shotguns that i carry afield have battle scars and worn wood where my hands hold the rifle, i dont throw it at trees or use it as a paddle but any gun you take afield for any amount of time will not look like it did out of the box and if it does maybe you should start hunting harder if you were looking for a caliber which you never asked but everyone is answering all the choices are viable 25-06 270 280 30-06 are all fine versatile calibers but i would suggest sticking with the 7mm since you already have one you dont need to go out and buy more ammo find a gun you like and fits you well and designate it as your field gun and years from now you will get enjoyment when your on stand and think about all the scars your gun has and the memorys that go with them remember glass wear is just as important as your gun choice a $1,000 gun with a pos scope doesnt help, figure into your budget and make sure you put the best glass wear on it you can |
I'm with Mikey. The Remington Model 700 is a great gun. I have the full size with the long barrel. I would fight shy of the BDL models though if you are hunting in a climate that can get real cold. I've heard that the teflon coated bolt sticks when it gets down to freezing, especially if there is moisture in the air. I've never had one, mines an ADL, and it may be something that has been fixed on the new models. But for the price of a Remington 700 that is synthetic you just can't go wrong. They aren't the most expensive or the most accurate (meanin tack drivers, cause mines plenty accurate); but with the right shooter you can put them wherever you want them and never have to worry about it missfiring or just plain fallin apart.
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I know he's probably talking a 7mm rem mag, but he didn't say that. Heck I've got a 7mm08 and a 7 x 57, both are 7mm, that being said, they'll do for anything except for the big bears if a person was of a mind to use them for that.
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Originally Posted by Mikey30067
(Post 3798634)
question seems odd you are not really a starter but you asked about a rifle not a caliber so im going to have to say a remmington model 7 or 700 would be my choice preferably a model 7 for the type of hunting i do which is in cover and i do a lot of walking so weight and size matter full size 700 would be nice if your not walking to far and want a longer barrel
the concern you expressed about beating up your rifle my first thought is go synthetic that way you wont worry about beating it up but i for one cant stand synthetic so i would suggest buying a used gun that you wont want to cry when you scratch it or the wood wears from everyday carry i think its funny people saying you wont beat up your gun hunting, all of my rifles and shotguns that i carry afield have battle scars and worn wood where my hands hold the rifle, i dont throw it at trees or use it as a paddle but any gun you take afield for any amount of time will not look like it did out of the box and if it does maybe you should start hunting harder if you were looking for a caliber which you never asked but everyone is answering all the choices are viable 25-06 270 280 30-06 are all fine versatile calibers but i would suggest sticking with the 7mm since you already have one you dont need to go out and buy more ammo find a gun you like and fits you well and designate it as your field gun and years from now you will get enjoyment when your on stand and think about all the scars your gun has and the memorys that go with them remember glass wear is just as important as your gun choice a $1,000 gun with a pos scope doesnt help, figure into your budget and make sure you put the best glass wear on it you can the top highlight is funny. worn wood i wouldnt consider being beat up. and i wonder if your stock is made out of chocolate instead of wood. or maybe you have sand paper mittens. either way, ive never ever ever seen a gun that has been carried so much that the wood has worn down. the finish...maybe. the bluing, but the wood worn down, i doubt it. not even grand pappys old .32 special has worn wood. the second highlight is just plain ignorant and proves that some ppl on here wouldnt know the differance between chit and apple sauce if they ate it w/ a spoon -Brandon |
the top highlight is funny. worn wood i wouldnt consider being beat up. and i wonder if your stock is made out of chocolate instead of wood. or maybe you have sand paper mittens. either way, ive never ever ever seen a gun that has been carried so much that the wood has worn down. the finish...maybe. the bluing, but the wood worn down, i doubt it. not even grand pappys old .32 special has worn wood. the second highlight is just plain ignorant and proves that some ppl on here wouldnt know the differance between chit and apple sauce if they ate it w/ a spoon skybuster your correct the wood itself is not worn down but the finish on the forearm and butt stock will diminish with every carry that is what i was referring too (worn-showing the effects of use, wear, etc.) by that deffinition i personally consider when the finish of the wood is reduced the wood is worn, however thanks for catching my poor choice of words, wouldn't want people reading it and thinking the wood will wear down to a tooth pick by being carried your second highlight seems ignorant i guess it is all in perspective though but a rifle that has been used for many years should NOT look as it did the day you bought it. but if you consider hunting hard going out once a year for a hour and driving right up to a blind or whatever it is that your gun wont receive any wear and you are hunting hard congrads can you fill me in on how you hunt hard or know someone that hunts hard and doesn't manage to diminish the guns brand new appearance?? i am open to the tactics because myself and i am sure others would like to keep their guns pristine or are you using a spoon full of chit more then you know it? i have never seen a hunting rifle look as it does out of the box once its been used wasn't trying to hurt anyones feelings by the comment to hunt harder so sorry if i ruffled your feathers a bit i dont understand this. up here in maine is the thickest nastiest crap a man could hunt in w/ every type of terrain and climate imaginable and my rifles still look like they did when they come out of the box. unless you drag it behind you on a leash i wouldnt worry about it "lasting" or getting beat up. your hunting for god sakes not charging through the bushes like a damn elephant. i have a gun in the front seat of my truck year round and its not beat up at all. use the 7 mil and love that sucker! besides, 50 years from now when you grand kids are holding it they will wonder aboput each ding and dent and think about how much game that gun has killed. my 2 cents worn wood i wouldnt consider being beat up. and i wonder if your stock is made out of chocolate instead of wood. or maybe you have sand paper mittens. either way, at least we agree that the 7 rem is a nice rifle and barnes makes some great bulllets. i was just trying to help the guy out with a rifle choice. btw your rifle on top of the buck looks great how many years have you had it and what scope is that? i typically use a 760 cambered in .300 savage open sights these days but that looks like a sweet brush gun |
my point is, you can hunt hard and still keep your rifles in good shape. ive only had that mod. 7 for 4 or 5 years, when they put the cdl in production in 350 mag. up here in maine is about the toughest hunting you can find in the us from the kind of country you hunt in to actually being able to find a deer ( 1/2 a deer per sq. mile in alot of places) and being self employyed i take most all of november off and some of dec. if i need to dig out the smokepole. i think that classifies as "hunting hard" especially since its all done on foot tracking and still hunting and my rifles arent beat up. nor are my fathers. a small dent here or a press there but thats probably from ridin in the truck more so then hunting w/ it in the field. unless a man falls down or trips over a log then i dont see a reason it would get beat up to much. if a man does trip then hes going to fast to begin w/. either way, happy hunitng.
i have a few 7600's myself and a couple 7400's and 742' all in '06 accept for one .35 whelen carbine 7600 w/ a peep. excellent deer killer. hard to beat a pump up here |
Originally Posted by skybuster20ga
(Post 3792028)
spend your money on a basic reloading kit. then you can kill everything from ground hogs to kodiaks w/ that 7mm and the right barnes bullet
Guns are built to be very rugged. If you take reasonable care of one, you should be able to hand it down to your grandchildren. |
I'm thinking Tyler_Rookie is needing a smaller caliber Rifle that would be in-between what he has now?Since he already has a 7mm-08 and a 22LR....I would look towards buying a .243,.223 or even a smaller caliber with faster speed like a .22 Hornet,.204 Ruger or even a Remington .17 Fireball?
The great thing about Rifles is there are so many choices and depending on what Your trying to Hunt or accomplish You need to add that in to the factor also. |
Go with a 270.
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GTO, everything you just talked about doing w/ a smaller caliber can be done way cheaper by handloading, and again sticking w/ the same rifle. the man that has one rifle will be a better shot then the man who changes rifles all the time 99% of the time.
muley, that makes nho sense at all. he already has a 7mm. a 270 is damn near the same thing. .284 down to .277?? why bother of the two ide def give the edge to the 7 mag for the case capacity. def a wider selection of bullets and diff weights |
new england firearms has a cheap rifle that is dependable. mine has kinda been beat up some still works like a dream. 243 with bull barrel and a 20 gauge slug barrel... now i wont beat up my ruger 6mm mark 2 i like it to much haha
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i have a youth 243 i got when i was 8 and ive been hunting since well before it was legal and i have taken deer with that 243 300 yards away and i still use it sometimes im even thinking bout takeing it elk hunting one of these days just to say ive bagged me an elk with a 243 and the 7mm u have will kill just abt everything in north america except probably a grizzly bear. when i got abt 13 my grandpa bought me a 7mm Remington magnum. i reccomend u get one when u get alittle older because the amunition is expensive but if u get a reloader u can do it for cheaper but well the first time i shot it it almost knocked me down. but to u i reccomend of the 5 guns 243, 223, 30-30, 270, or 308. there all guns i have owned and i didnt mention the 223 but ive dropped yotes 250 yards away and i know i could kill a deer with it. i just have never tried. i hope i helped even though this post was alittle old
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