Need help,what plants still attract deer after heavy frost and even snow?
 

I live in upstate NY and would like to put in a small food plot.A plot that I could use for archery season that starts Oct 15 and ends when rifle/shotgun season opens on the 3rd Saturday in November.Rifle season last for 3 weeks,then Muzzleloader season starts.
Last year the deer were eating grass in a large open area during rifle season,there was about 2" of snow on the ground.That is the only open area for miles the rest of the land is heavily wooded.I would like to plant something that would work for archery through muzzleloader season.We usually have snow by the middle of November.With many heavy frosts before that.Would winter peas,oats or wheat be the best?Can clover take a heavy frost?I would appreciate your opinion,Thanks.

I would go with Peas or turnips

Cereal Rye
 

If you can find some cereal rye/winter rye in place of the oats or wheat that will work. Rye is very cold tolerate.

Clover will stop growing after a hard freeze, but will come back next spring. Fall planted clover seems to be the way to go for me. I'm preparing a plot now that is very similar to what you have in mind. Here in the mid-atlantic states oats will usually survive winter and the deer seem to favor that over rye or wheat. Up in your area the oats probably won't survive, but could still be worth trying.

Austrian Winter Peas are cold hardy to a degree also. I'm planning on planting oats, awp, clover and a little alfalfa around Labor Day or a little after. You may need to go a week or two earlier.

I killed the weeds and grass around July 4th with Glyphosate and just applied lime a couple days ago.

Clover will go dormant once the temperatures get near freezing. Winter rye and winter wheat are good choices, especially if you want early greens in the spring for the deer. Oats will probably not survive the winter if you have very cold winters. Turnips would be my choice if you want a pure late fall/winter food source. Deer will dig up the snow to get at turnips, and you are free to plant something else next spring.

turnips and rape would be my choice mixed with some type of cereal grain, oats or winter rye. The rye is what I usually plant, very hardy in cold weather and the deer here seem to really love it.

I'm in CNY - with a variety of plots planted over the last 10 years.
Turnips work for us, but only in Late December and January.

Standing Corn is great for 1ft of snow or more.

Late August planted Rye is great for October and Nov. - but become less attractive in December

Standing Soybeans are used October - January and are our most productive plot during hunting season ( plus the deer really use them in Late July & August).
They get my vote




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I,m in N N.Y. and plant turnops and buck forage oats in 2 places and clover in another .
Also this year I planted some chicory plots .
If you want something foe late season either snow of frost I ,d plant turnips and buck forage oats ..:biggrin:

I use a brassica blend and a clover chicory mix. The clover chicory is a good eary plot while the brassica doesn't become attractive until after a hard frost (that's when the starch turns to sugar).

Farm hunter where abouts are you in Caz i grew up in Peterboro and used to work for Doughrety masonary through college.

I'm trying purple-top turnips and appin forage turnips this year. I was going to plant this sunday but now I'm waiting another week or so. I'm covered in deer during early season but when the late season and deeper snow get here, the deer move off to some sections of standing corn off of my property. That is why I went with turnips. Next year I will have standing field corn too, :barmy::barmy::barmy:.........It won't be a giant corn plot but considering there is a ton of corn in my area and more than 95% of it is cut, I am sure my standing corn will draw deer during late season. The only other corn left standing in my area is a few small pockets here and there, not much at all, and at least a good mile or two away.

Brassicas and turnips are a sure-fire food source for late season.

check out the fall blend from www.bigracktrophyproducts.com I use it every year.

I plant alot of oats, winter wheat and rye. Pike

Trees deer love
 

Making food plots is illegal in New Your State, but that can't stop you from growing trees. Some trees that deer love here in NY are evergreen trees( Christmas tree) acorn, apples, pears, crab apple, pine, cedar, and maple trees. Plant these everywhere and deer will be all over them, trust me.

What ?????:rolleye0011:

Brassicas and turnips.

there have been several great suggestions on here,

the turnips are a good choice, the dear here in central Ky. usually will not bother the turnups untill after the first hard frost, (i dont even sow my turnups untill late august) the frost release's the sugars in the turnip and like everyone else the deer like there sugar.

cerial grains will continue to stay green throughout the winter, i have 2 seperate 3 acre food plots that are dedicated to a mix of alfalfa, white clover, and oats.

when i make the initial seeding i always sow oats with the legumes then i let them go to a head and knock them down with a bushhog, then i will run a toothed cultipacker back over it and get a decent reseed from the fallen grain, after the 3rd year the oats are thinning out and i will rotate the plot back to grain

these legume plots are a magnet for both the deer and turkeys here on this place during the winter and they keep it looking like a well groomed lawn untill the spring green up when the deer return to the woods

i also plant 6-12 acres of corn/beans each year and let it stand in the field untill i can only find a couple of kernels at the very bottom of the ear., by then the beans are gone as well and i bush hog the residue .

so everything that has been mentioned is a great suggestion, it depends on what your budget is and how much space you have for the plots.

another great food source for turkeys if you have them is chufa,

I use Antler King Fall / Winter / Spring Food Plot Blend in Oklahoma. Our weather can change in the blink of eye from warm to extreme cold, ice, and snow. I have had really good success with it. It has a mixture of winter peas and winter rye that provides in excess of 20% protein in all three seasons. I mix in my own turnips that you should be able to get from any feed store. It can grow up to 6-8" tall in just 10 days so its very fast growing. It runs me about $50.00 for a 34lb bag thru a guy that has an on line website. I have enclosed the link for you. http://astore.amazon.com/huntincabin-20

Try using Nutrigreen Winter Peas, Frigid Triticale, Oats, Wheat, crimson clover, Oasis chicory and some purple top and red top turnips or better barkant turnips. The nutrigreen winterpeas are very freeze toterant, swter than austrian winter peas and hardy as is the frigid triticale. But these plants will do very well and give a good energy and protein level to your winter plot.