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I would like to know how long this was worked before it looked like this.

I bought one of the damn things and it may as well be a boat anchor. Unless there is a serious amount of sand in a field it's a waste of time with the P-master. I have clay soils and usually I can get a strip 4' wide worked up in 15 passes.


Mine's in the barn, I'll let it go cheap.

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Bagem, the deer seem to be hitting the Biologic just about like they did mine. Not at all.

Beautiful plot, just no deer. I honestly can't understand why people continue to plant this stuff with all the customer complaints and failures that I've read.

As far as the Plot-Master, my buddy has one and it takes forever to get anything done with it. You speak of liking it for it's weight, It will hardly scratch the soil on our land.

Just my opinion---WASTE OF HARD EARNED MONEY

Otis

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Slumpbuster, I also have clay soils. I will also say that it takes alot of passes to work up ground that has been idle for years. I started with ALOT of deep thatch, so I bet it took nearly 15 passes for me as well, BUT 15 passes doesn't take all that long if you have an ATV with some muscle. Mine has 500cc. I would guess it took about 2 hours to get my plot the way it is in my first pic. If someone knows of another implement that can be towed behind an ATV that works faster, bring it on. I'm sure you could do it faster with a tractor and a larger, heavier disc set, but that won't work for me because some of my plots are inaccessible to a tractor (trees, etc)

One of the 5 plots that I worked up last year became so overgrown with weeds that I decided to rework it this past Spring. The nice part of that is that it took only a fraction of the time to work it up the second time, since I got all the deep thatch out last year.

Otis...that photo of the Premium Perennial plot was taken in August. Of course the deer haven't touched it. What you see there are brassicas, which are not palatable to deer until after the first few hard frosts. By mid December that plot was mowed to the ground by deer. I would suggest having your friend contact his regional plotmaster sales rep and ask for some tips on using the implement. There are several key adjustments on that machine that can be made to suit different terrain and soils. If your soils are too hard for the plotmaster, than good luck using any other ATV implement. It sounds like you may need to use a tractor rig of some type.

It's obvious to me at this point that I'm in shark infested waters on this plotmaster issue. Being new here, I'm not sure how this overall dislike of the plotmaster has developed. I assure you I have absolutely no connection to the plotmaster people or anyone else who sells them and stand to gain nothing by plugging this machine. Plain and simply, I have had a great experience with the plotmaster the past few years over some very challenging terrain and remain very impressed with it.

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Bagem, sorry for group bashing of the plotmas...errrr plot diasaster butthere just isn't much to it IMO. You are one of the very few people who have anything positive to say about it. For every positive response I have heard, I have alsoheard 50 people call it a piece of crap.

Farm hunter is usually a pretty staight up guy so don't get too up tight. It is just that when someone says something positive about the plot disaster or any other tonka toy typeproductit makes our advertising antenna go up. I'm glad it is working for you because $3000 is a bunch to spend on something that doesn't seem to work for so many people.

Welcome to the board. I look forward to hearing how everything else works out.

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bagem -

Sorry to sound so negative - its not usually my nature. Truly - I thought you were on plugging that planting tool (maybe even as a rep for the company)- and I was a little more blunt than usual.

Truthfully - the plotmaster doesn't work well for many soil types and conditions. It would be horribly misfigured after a year on my rocky fields, and heavy clay soils. When they first started coming out - many people were sorry they purchased one.

Thanks for posting the pics of you plots. It looks like you did a fine job preparing the plot.

FH

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Thanks FH
I'll just make a few more points and then I promise I'll let this topic die.
1) I wonder if the plotmaster became a better implement a year ago when they made some major changes to it. Mine is the updated version. Are people here basing their opinions on the original, and possibly less impressive version? I don't know, since I never saw the original.
2) Although the folks on this site seem to have had a bad experience, there are a number of folks over on the QDM site that have had similar success to me.
3) I think we all agree that a tractor setup is far more effective at establishing a plot than an ATV drawn unit, whether that's a plotmaster or any other. The beauty of the plotmaster for me is that I am able to put plots in areas that are completely inaccesible to a tractor, like in small open areas tucked back in the middle of stands of trees, etc. I love it's ability to accomplish that.

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I know of a fellow that has a plot master and likes it quite a bit. his only negative feedback is that as stated above it is not a one pass machine unless used behinda tractor and the seeder is only good for large seeds. I think that you could buy a set of tuffline disc 700.00, a chain harrow for 300.00, a could hand held bag seeders 60.00, and a pull behind spreader for 200.00 and come out cheaper IMO. only problem is you will have more equipment to haul around. I have a tsc disc that I added 4 basket pods on top of it so I can add more wt to get it to cut better but it has a narrow cut. the tuffline IMO weighs 462 LBs and I think would do a better job than the one I had to modify as it has a larger cutting width (less passes per field) and more wt (cuts deeper) IMO. hope this helps IMO a tractor will outperform my atv implements hands down.

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This is an opinion from someone who only has used a tractor and tiller. I believe no one here has answered bagem's question. Does anyone know of a better machine pulled behind a fourwheeler?

In my opinion the only mistake that plot master makes is that it markets it's machine as a one pass tool. There is no tool out there that I know of, whether pulled by tractor or anything else that is a one pass tool. Though my tiller breaks the ground and prepares the seed bed in one pass, I still have to broadcast the seed, drag a harrow and compact.

The reason I like the idea of the plot master is that if you cant get a tractor into an area this is your best bet. Every tool that you need is on this unit. There is no unhitching each tool and hauling each tool through the woods. One unit, everything you need. It might not work in one pass but who cares? It still works as long as you put the work into it.

Every tool has a purpose. And I will say this again. I have never used one, never seen one in action but I could have used one in the past if I had the money to buy one.

Now if this guy is a rep. how about sending me one to try out for this season for free....LOL....