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Goodguy 04-22-2005 08:25 PM

Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
I posted this in the Bow Hunting Forum but thought it might also be of interest here. At present there is debate over extending bow hunting within the municipality. This a letter to the editor that appeared on Wed Apr. 20/05. I think it's called divide & conquer?

The Record (Newspaper)
160 King St. East
Kitchener, Ontario
N2G 4E5

It's time to put an end to bow-hunting

The Record (Kitchener, Cambridge and Waterloo)
Wed 20 Apr 2005
Page: A12
Section: OPINION
Byline: Bruce Thornton
Column: LETTER OF THE DAY

I have been following the bow-hunting debate with increasing interest over the past few weeks. I am a small c Conservative, right-wing gun owner and never considered myself an animal activist. I did a little research on bow hunting and it proved to be a real wake-up call.

It became apparent that it is a very inefficient way to hunt and has no upside or any place in modern society. I own bows but only use them for target practice with my grandson. Never would I or any hunter I know use a bow for hunting.

There are many irrelevant issues raised by pro-bow hunters (crop damage, vehicles hitting deer, need for culls, deer die and suffer in the wild anyway, bows have been used for thousands of years, it is a "real" sport, etc.), none of which address the real issue -- cruelty. If deer must be killed, then please do it humanely. I have seen pictures of deer walking around with arrows in them and have read many articles relating the suffering other animals go through when impaled with an arrow. It simply is not necessary.

I appreciate Larry Anstett bringing this disgusting and pointless cruelty to every caring person's attention and wish him success in banning bow hunting. Any less would be an affront to a society that prides itself on doing the right thing. I beg our elected officials to stand up and listen to the vast majority of citizens who find this "sport" repulsive.

We have moved on from so many things that were once considered acceptable but have been shown for what they are --anachronistic.

Please write or call your local legislator if you find, as I do, that it is past time to end this barbaric practice.

Bruce Thornton

New Hamburg

If you’re as upset as I was over an apparent fellow hunter literally stabbing us in the back you can send a letter to the Editor as I did; [email protected] And it doesn't matter which side of the border we're on. This crap damages all of us.

gg.

Goodguy 04-22-2005 08:28 PM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
This is the letter I wrote to the Editor

The Record
160 King St. East
Kitchener, Ontario
N2G 4E5

The Editor

It will not surprise me if I don’t see my letter in print but I feel the need to express my informed opinion to you. As a hunter for over 50 years with knowledge of many aspects of hunting including bow hunting I have to wonder where it was that Mr. Thornton did his research. And I strongly suspect the basis for his research must have been the inaccurate rhetoric and propaganda being spewed by the animal rights and anti-hunting groups because it has no basis in fact. If Mr. Thornton really is a hunter he should know that it is always the criteria of a hunter to make a clear accurate shot to the vitals to ensure a humane quick kill regardless if using a rifle or bow. To say there are deer walking about the woods with arrows sticking out of them is ridiculous in the extreme. I also have to wonder if Mr. Thornton is possibly falsely portraying himself as a hunter to try and give credibility to his true anti-hunting agenda.


Yours truly

bawanajim 04-23-2005 09:38 AM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
This guy never hunted anything but rubber ducks , and he was probably under gunned for that .

If you know what I mean.

Shootstuff4570 04-23-2005 05:08 PM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 

If deer must be killed, then please do it humanely. I have seen pictures of deer walking around with arrows in them and have read many articles relating the suffering other animals go through when impaled with an arrow.
i dont wanna sound like im against hunting or anything, but even with rifle hunting some people dont make clean kills, and he's not complaining about that. i love bowhunting and im gonna continue to do it

JerseyJim 04-23-2005 07:34 PM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
Looks like an anti in wolves clothing to me.... Not a hunter....No way!

skeeter 7MM 04-24-2005 01:23 AM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 

I have been following the bow-hunting debate with increasing interest over the past few weeks. I am a small c Conservative, right-wing gun owner and never considered myself an animal activist. I did a little research on bow hunting and it proved to be a real wake-up call.

It became apparent that it is a very inefficient way to hunt and has no upside or any place in modern society. I own bows but only use them for target practice with my grandson. Never would I or any hunter I know use a bow for hunting.

There are many irrelevant issues raised by pro-bow hunters (crop damage, vehicles hitting deer, need for culls, deer die and suffer in the wild anyway, bows have been used for thousands of years, it is a "real" sport, etc.), none of which address the real issue -- cruelty. If deer must be killed, then please do it humanely. I have seen pictures of deer walking around with arrows in them and have read many articles relating the suffering other animals go through when impaled with an arrow. It simply is not necessary.
All this points to a individual who doesn't hunt. Agree 100% anti playing the part and not well at that. I hope a real hunters rebuttal finds print to combat this yahoo's comments.

fl.huntress 04-24-2005 09:57 AM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
i used to have my own opinions about bow hunting but then instead of whining about it i learned how to use a bow and have been a bow huntin' fool ever since.
seems like he is voicing his opinions based on emotions and not the facts.
yes things don't always go the way we want them to but that is part of life in every situation....may it be huntin' or bakin' a cake but emotions should be left out of it.

DoctorDeath 04-24-2005 10:08 AM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
This is just ANOTHER example of "THE MAN" wanting to hold us "Red Men" down!! .. "Sitting Bull" would roll over in his grave if he read this.


"Doc" or better known in My tribe as "Runny Nose"

lhook7 04-24-2005 12:10 PM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
No way this guy is a hunter.

jepcho 04-24-2005 05:47 PM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
If he was really a hunter he would know that making a good shot with a bow will kill a deer just as humanely as with a rifle!!

strut 04-24-2005 07:25 PM

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If deer must be killed, then please do it humanely.
That statement alone tells the truth about this guy, It has anti-hunter written all over it.

zrexpilot 04-24-2005 08:43 PM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 

ORIGINAL: jepcho

If he was really a hunter he would know that making a good shot with a bow will kill a deer just as humanely as with a rifle!!
Actuall it's even more humane, deer do not feel an arrow pass through the vitals. for one, lungs have no nerve ending therfore do no percieve pain, and if you have ever cut yourself with a razor you know the pain dont set in for quite awhile. Now a gunshot is very painfull I hear.
Killed two deer with a bow this past year and two with my gun. All four deer only went 20 or so yds. There are far more deer wounded with rifles than with bows every year, why dont he post that data.

GRIZZLYMAN 04-25-2005 10:39 AM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
It's one person's opinion and it doesn't count for much. If a paper publishs it, then they usually have an agenda of their own and they would dig up someone to support their agenda.

JagMagMan 04-26-2005 04:39 AM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
I agree, this guy is no hunter! There are many of our fellow gun owners, who are back stabbers too! They are far too quick to give up other peoples types of guns, if it is not the type that they shoot!
All hunters should for the most part, support all LEGAL forms of hunting! (If there is some contraversal forms of hunting, it should be taken up in wildlife department hearings! Not openly trash other peoples forms of hunting in the general public!)
All gun owners should support the Second Amendment, not just their own type of firearms!
When we as hunters, and gun owners allow ourselves to be fragmented, we are helping our enemy! With hunting, the anti's prey on the less popular forms of hunting, until ALL hunting will be outlawed! With guns, they do the same thing! They try to get the less popular guns banned, until ALL guns are banned!
We need to think, before we act, or speak, or we can unwittingly help those who would take our rights away from us!

HighDesertWolf 05-16-2005 04:06 AM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 

ORIGINAL: Goodguy

This is the letter I wrote to the Editor

The Record
160 King St. East
Kitchener, Ontario
N2G 4E5

The Editor

It will not surprise me if I don’t see my letter in print but I feel the need to express my informed opinion to you. As a hunter for over 50 years with knowledge of many aspects of hunting including bow hunting I have to wonder where it was that Mr. Thornton did his research. And I strongly suspect the basis for his research must have been the inaccurate rhetoric and propaganda being spewed by the animal rights and anti-hunting groups because it has no basis in fact. If Mr. Thornton really is a hunter he should know that it is always the criteria of a hunter to make a clear accurate shot to the vitals to ensure a humane quick kill regardless if using a rifle or bow. To say there are deer walking about the woods with arrows sticking out of them is ridiculous in the extreme. I also have to wonder if Mr. Thornton is possibly falsely portraying himself as a hunter to try and give credibility to his true anti-hunting agenda.


Yours truly

wheres the money??? all I ask is who signs Mr. Thornton's pay check? that will usually tell you where this idiotic BS is coming from. Its sad nowadays nobody has any morals or are too affraid to stand up for how they really feel because of, you guessed it MONEY. People today will crusifie their own flesh and blood for , you guessed right again MONEY....... MONEY MONEY MONEY everyones lives revolve around whats that? you guessed right again MONEY.

Red Hawk 05-16-2005 12:11 PM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
Definetly not a hunter...

Jimmy S 05-16-2005 12:48 PM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
Not a hunter in any stretch...Why would he say he was a "Conservative, right-wing gun owner..."? Any hunter I know while discussing hunting styles, techniques, likes, dislikes etc, have never disclosed their political side. There's no reasoning for doing so.

I have yet to hear another hunter, anywhere, anytime, anyplace, ever say anything detrimental to the sport of deer hunting. As examples, we may disagree whether crossbows should be included as legal during archery season, or if muzzleloaders with rifled barrels, scopes etc are truly defined as primitive firearms. The point being, we never feel any current type of hunting style should be banned under any circumstamnce. History does not lie.

I could continue this reply for many more paragraphs but I will not bore you much further. This author is trying to deceive readers that he is, in fact, a hunter. There is no doubt here that he doesn't even come close. There is a kind of bond, a strong unity (brotherhood) of all hunters that I have ever known.

Mr. Thornton does not and never did undertand that!

DougMD 05-16-2005 01:43 PM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
Anti Hunter trying desparately to do SOMETHING that might have an impact. The PETA approach is doing nothing but backfiring!

Terasec 05-18-2005 12:35 PM

RE: Fellow Hunter Stabs Us In The Back
 
should have mentioned that most shots swith Bows are taken at 15-25 yds,
while rifle shots can be taken at hundreds of yards.


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