Calif. lawmakers vote to ban Internet hunting
04-22-2005, 10:17 AM
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Calif. lawmakers vote to ban Internet hunting
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Calif. lawmakers vote to ban Internet hunting
Published: April 21, 2005, 3:42 PM PDT
By Reuters
California state senators approved a bill on Thursday that would ban hunters from killing animals over the Internet.
Hunters can currently stalk prey online at Live-shot.com, a Web site linking firearms and cameras so customers can point, click and shoot antelope, sheep and wild hogs on a Texas ranch from thousands of miles away.
Live-shot.com is the only Web site of its kind, and California lawmakers voted 25-6 to deter imitators.
"It's an over-the-top, pay-per-view video game using live animals for target practice that ought to be banned from coast-to-coast," said Sen. Debra Bowen, the bill's author.
"Pay-per-view hunting doesn't meet any definition of 'sporting' that I've ever heard because there's nothing 'sporting' about sitting at your computer in your pajamas, using your mouse to shoot at hogs or antelope or any other animal that's halfway across the country," Bowen said.
Her bill bars remote hunting in California and would ban anyone from operating a hunting Web site in the state.
The bill would also ban the import of animals into California killed over a remote hunting Web site, and violators would face up to six months in jail and fines of up to $1,000.
The operator of Live-shot.com was not immediately available for comment, but customer Dale Hagberg of Ligonier, Ind., who is paralyzed from the neck down, defended the Web site and criticized California lawmakers.
"They don't realize who the site is for. It's designed to help people like me, not just lazy hunters," said Hagberg, who plans to use the Web site again after an initial and unsuccessful hunt.
Bowen's bill now goes to California's Assembly. Fourteen other states are discussing similar bans, and a federal bill would outlaw Internet-based hunting across the United States.
California lawmakers in recent years have taken up a number of animal-friendly bills, including legislation aimed at stopping foie gras production, sharply limiting the practice of cropping dogs' ears, and legalizing ferret ownership.
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Calif. lawmakers vote to ban Internet hunting
Published: April 21, 2005, 3:42 PM PDT
By Reuters
California state senators approved a bill on Thursday that would ban hunters from killing animals over the Internet.
Hunters can currently stalk prey online at Live-shot.com, a Web site linking firearms and cameras so customers can point, click and shoot antelope, sheep and wild hogs on a Texas ranch from thousands of miles away.
Live-shot.com is the only Web site of its kind, and California lawmakers voted 25-6 to deter imitators.
"It's an over-the-top, pay-per-view video game using live animals for target practice that ought to be banned from coast-to-coast," said Sen. Debra Bowen, the bill's author.
"Pay-per-view hunting doesn't meet any definition of 'sporting' that I've ever heard because there's nothing 'sporting' about sitting at your computer in your pajamas, using your mouse to shoot at hogs or antelope or any other animal that's halfway across the country," Bowen said.
Her bill bars remote hunting in California and would ban anyone from operating a hunting Web site in the state.
The bill would also ban the import of animals into California killed over a remote hunting Web site, and violators would face up to six months in jail and fines of up to $1,000.
The operator of Live-shot.com was not immediately available for comment, but customer Dale Hagberg of Ligonier, Ind., who is paralyzed from the neck down, defended the Web site and criticized California lawmakers.
"They don't realize who the site is for. It's designed to help people like me, not just lazy hunters," said Hagberg, who plans to use the Web site again after an initial and unsuccessful hunt.
Bowen's bill now goes to California's Assembly. Fourteen other states are discussing similar bans, and a federal bill would outlaw Internet-based hunting across the United States.
California lawmakers in recent years have taken up a number of animal-friendly bills, including legislation aimed at stopping foie gras production, sharply limiting the practice of cropping dogs' ears, and legalizing ferret ownership.
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04-22-2005, 03:55 PM
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RE: Calif. lawmakers vote to ban Internet hunting
I never really hated it but i never really liked it. to me, it sort of has two sides.
one side: its like going on the internet, shooting an animal, and having pork chops the next day. it also gives disabled people a chance to hunt.
second side: anyone can just go on the interent and shoot animals for the fun of it with no intention of buying the meat. shots could also become carless and game could be wounded.
Im not going either way on the matter though.
one side: its like going on the internet, shooting an animal, and having pork chops the next day. it also gives disabled people a chance to hunt.
second side: anyone can just go on the interent and shoot animals for the fun of it with no intention of buying the meat. shots could also become carless and game could be wounded.
Im not going either way on the matter though.
04-23-2005, 07:03 AM
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RE: Calif. lawmakers vote to ban Internet hunting
ORIGINAL: rick_reno
Hunters can currently stalk prey online at Live-shot.com, a Web site linking firearms and cameras so customers can point, click and shoot antelope, sheep and wild hogs on a Texas ranch from thousands of miles away.
Live-shot.com is the only Web site of its kind, and California lawmakers voted 25-6 to deter imitators.
Hunters can currently stalk prey online at Live-shot.com, a Web site linking firearms and cameras so customers can point, click and shoot antelope, sheep and wild hogs on a Texas ranch from thousands of miles away.
Live-shot.com is the only Web site of its kind, and California lawmakers voted 25-6 to deter imitators.
Edit - I just went to his site and as best I could tell, there is no animal shooting yet. Guess I can take off my smelly camo & boots and get back into my polyester for some more internet dating.
04-26-2005, 07:20 AM
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RE: Calif. lawmakers vote to ban Internet hunting
Although it shouldn't be called hunting, I don't have any problem with it. I put it in the same group as walking into a grocery store and pointing out which fish you what taken from the tank. That's not fishing but no one is complaining. At Live-shot your choosing your steaks and chops on the hoof.
As I read their site, a guy is sitting in a blind with the computer and its up to him to release the safety before you shoot. The animal is butchered and you decide to either have the meat sent to you or donated to a food bank.
As I read their site, a guy is sitting in a blind with the computer and its up to him to release the safety before you shoot. The animal is butchered and you decide to either have the meat sent to you or donated to a food bank.