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i just visited the peta website at www.peta.org in response to moosehornhunter's post. i understand their cause when it comes to cruel treatment of animal in lab tests, poachers, and so forth, but a line needs to be drawn when it comes to hunting and fishing. yep even fishing too. they don't like it either. the amount of CRAP that i skimmed over when looking at their anti-hunting and fishing topics was just unbelievable. they want you to believe that hunting and fishing disrupts natures balance and endangers the existance of the game the we hunt. they say that about 5% of our countries population hunts and it is disrupting this balance. five percent of our countries population is a large number of people but do you think it is enough to disrupt that balance and endanger the existance of the game the we hunt? as for fishing, fish come a dime a dozen, they are all over the place. shouldn't there be a line drawn some where. anyway, if you want to have your head filled with crap just visit the anti-hunting and fishing portions of their web site.

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They are mental midgets

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wanna join my PETA club?? My club is for People Eating Tasty Animals though

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it says 25 years of helping animals but they havent done vary much have they and they wont when they take away hunting is the day i die!

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25 years of stealing from animals is more like it! If hunting and fishing organizations didn't have to waist so much money fighting these idiots that money would go towards improving habitat or preserving land or studying something that would help the animals in nature and the anti's money could be used to go after the people really being cruel to animals! You know ... the people fighting dogs or starving thier pets or beating on thier pets with a pipe! Man these people just don't get it! [:@]

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Here is a little backround on what they are costing hunters and conservation. As most of you know, Maine was forced to deal with an all out asault against bear hunting this past fall brought to us by the Humane Society and the Friends of Animals. Here is how the money played out. To defeat this referendum it cost 1.7 million dollars. Of that money, 64% came right from the pockets of Maine residents, the remainder came from out of state support like SCI and Sportsman alliance. On the flip side, 93% of the money that funded the referendum came from out of state, the majority from Humane society and the friends of animals. The fact that 80% of all conservation in this country is funded by hunter and fisherman is lost on most people. That 1.7 million could have been better used in this state to fund conservation and habitat improvement, instead we had use it to fight to keep our rights as hunters. The anti's are only all to happy to spend our money in ways that does nothing to benifit wildlife I encorage everyone to read the latest issue of American Hunter magazine. They have a great article on the big Anti Hunting organizations and where they get thier money and how much they have. We should be educated on this subject, you will eventually be confronted by someone who will need to be set srtaight on the real facts. So please arm yourself fo future assaults, get all the information you can. Yup, we kicked their butts this past fall in Maine, but they are already planning the next attack. Bowhunting will the be the focus of the Humane society and the friends of animal, they want to shut it done, nation wide. They are also starting to target fishing as cruel, evedence of this appeared in the Portland press this past week. Be vigialent, get the facts and fight back with everything you have.

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I think it is GREAT that they are doing that!!!! It just makes them look more foolish and turns more people off to them! Here in CA, even normal (nonhunter) people refer to people like them as "weird peta types" or "peta types" as in "I'm no peta type, but I don't want to see animals tortured."

Really, guys. Very, very few people take these guys seriously--and they just keep digging themselves a deeper hole. They must have the worst PR firm in the world. :)

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Ahahaha...."Wasn't Hitler for animal rights" under their FAQ....Oh boy, let's take a look here, since Hitler was for animal rights, that OBVIOUSLY makes it good, eh? I nearly threw up after reading that garbage in the FAQ....

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Years ago I used to rodeo and those stupid fools used to show up and try to boycott and pickett us then those fools would stand there and not move while we were trying to get in the contestant entrance. You basically had to bump them with your truck to get through. We are talking about people to stupid to get out of the way of a moving truck. How do we expect them to see the truth behind conservation

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in reply to highdesertwolf. ya! that's what i am talking about!

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It is really sad that not only peta people (who are the ultimate nutjobs), but many of the general population believe that hunters/fisherman actually have something against that which they hunt/fish for, when nothing could be further from the truth. No one loves the animals/fish more (not with mashed potatoes:D, seriously) than the ones that actively pursue them. No one contributes more money, time, effort either to make sure of the continued survival of those same animals/fish.................Things are certainly backwards sometimes

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Hunting and fishing is my life... if they take it away...:([X(]

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Y'know that's EXACTLY right.....I mean what all have PETA and those people did to actually HELP ENSURE the continued survival of species? Nothing from what I can tell, only whine about it. It really is pathetic that they act as if hunters are the reason and one reason alone animals have become extinct and whatnot, where in fact the reason most of the game animals are around is because of hunters. I tell ya what, I wish people could get just step back and awknowledge that one fact, I think it'd make a lot of people really think

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757-622-7382
heres the number terrorize away, I know its wrong and I shouldnt do it but [:@] Look at the skins video for j. lo it doesnt happen that away in america

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Each state has on average 16,000,000 people, that times 50 comes to 800,000,000.
Now %5 of that 800mil is only 40,000,000.





Now I dont know about you but 40,000,000 is almost ZERO compared to 800,000,000.

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The skinning video is pretty disturbing. Is it real? I mean actual video of how it is done or staged? I ask because I know it's hard enough to skin a dead animal, it seems like it would be a lot more difficult to skin a live, struggling animal. If it is real then PETA and I have found something to agree on. I have no problem with killing an animal for it's fur, but anyone who would hang up a live creature and torture it deserves the same for themselves.

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I wouldnt doubt it if it was real.

Ever watch Banned From Asia? I swear to god if I could go back in time and change my mind about watching that I would. That is the most disturbing thing I have ever seen and ever will see. I hate to say it but what I saw those people do to animals on that banned from asia movie made me as pissed off and sick as the PETA hippies are about hunting.

Needless to say I didnt watch the last half of the movie....The grossness of Fear Factor is NOTHING compared to this.

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never heard of that Jeep,

what did it show?----I don't want details--just overall what was going on

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Last time I checked the population of the US was hovering around 300 million and five percent of that would be only 15 million...a lot less than 40 million! I doubt the number is even 5 percent of the population; maybe 5% have hunted or fished or something at one time in their lives, but active hunters no way!
I myself am just getting into hunting, this year will be my first hunt. I really like what hunters stand for and their attitudes towards what they do. I have more respect for them the more I read about them (from reliable sources, not from the PETA site).

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Yeah, these people must be stupid, there is no way that the state would ever ban hunting or fishing. It brings in way too much money for one. and really makes no sense whatsoever.. these ppl want to protect cruelty to animals .. well i am starting my own club too.. PETI.Protection Essentials Towards INsects[8D] Yeah.. you slap a mosquito.. well that insect had a mother and father too. you cant use any of that because your endagering it population.. ..//Just kidding bout PETI
These people really piss me off. all the money they are using to ban all our hunting and fishing rights, could be used for something more useful like protecting wetlands or planting trees, something worthwhile.. who do these ppl think they are? [:@][:@]

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i was hunting in southern illinois this bow season and them son of a bitches stole one of my climbers i left out when i went to eat lunch. later that afternoon they came under my permanent stand and started making all kinds of noise. as soon as i started to get down them skinny tree huggers took off. i would love to just get ahold of a few of them who come onto PRIVATE PROPERTY and f*ck with people who hunt for food.

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sounds like a case for a hunting "accident"---that will fix 'em

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Lobby your state legistlatures to get an anti-harrassment bill passed. We have that in Texas for hunting and fishing.

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with 1000's of dogs and cats being put to death everyday in the animals shelters. because there is not enough money to feed and shelter them. why are they wasting their money in court battles to stop me from shooting a deer. i think they should take a look in their back yard. and leave me alone. ted kennedy has killed more people than my guns ever will. [:@]

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PETA = Pole Smokin Hippie Beestards

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YEH!

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nudist idiots i understand the purpose of animal abouse but when treehuggers go into our beliefs thats the line annoys idiots hate um

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What do hippies have to do with peta? I agree with most of what was said about peta but why the comparison?

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I think as hunters, we are largely misinformed about the majority of PETA members. My fiancee is a member. She volunteered at the animal shelter and has always had a soft spot for puppies (and who doesn't?).

She always gave 20 bucks or so annually to PETA and the HUMANE SOCIETY, blindly thinking that her money went to spay/neuter/feed/maintain animal shelters for lost kitties and puppies. Little did she know that almost all of her donation was funnelled to the war on hunting.

Almost every PETA member I've ever met doesn't exactly love hunting, but most of them aren't "Anti-Hunting" per se. They simply aren't aware that their organization is an anti hunting group. They are donating because they feel bad for little puppies in cages, not because people in Maine are hunting black bears.

Now, we still donate to Human Society and PETA, but in accord with 401(C) of the Tax code, any tax deductible donation given to a non-profit can be specifically directed for its use. So, I specify that my $50 goes to spaying and neutering domesticated animals (cats and dogs). That is something that I agree with.

Really, PETA and The Humane Society are huge, ugly, anti-hunting monsters due to a loud MINORITY of their membership, not the average donor.

They market themselves as being a savior to all sad little puppies, but we are all aware that saving puppies is not their true aim. Most of their money comes from that marketing, and is then funnelled into the war on hunting.

Do you guys think I'm misinformed here, or is my impression on point?

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quicksilver,

I think you may be right as far as stating that many members of peta that are not really active volunteers or protestors or whatnot being misguided contributors thinking about puppies and I would bet that much of the literature they receive reflects that clouded misrepresentation.
However, IMHO, peta's 501(c) status as a federally recognized charitable organization should be revoked as they funnel money to other, more radical animal rights groups like ELF. It's hard to believe that people should be able to realize a tax deduction for an organization that wants to take my hunting AND FISHING rights away. Although you can earmark your contributions for a particular cause within a cause, it still gives them more financial flexibility overall. Because if they have a certain budget for puppies, you help them meet that so that other monies can be contributed to what many see as there primary purpose.
As a hunter/fisherman/lover of the outdoors, I would personally ask you to convince your fiancee to possibly rethink her/your contributions (sounds like she wears the pants:D) to something more on the local level, if possible, or perhaps she can contribute a little time as a volunteer or something else to feel good. I don't really have any concrete alternative avenues for good donations, but perhaps others here will, or maybe talk to a local veternarian who is an avid outdoorsman(????). Anyway, I think no matter what idea your money is given for, contributing to peta is contrary to our outdoor way of life.
hb

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Hillbillyhunter - I agree with your response in some respects. You pointed out that any donation, earmarked for specific use or not, gives financial flexibility to the organization, and in that regard, you are correct. I disagree a bit, however, as I've spread the word about requesting how donations should be used, and it has been met with a very positive response.

I found that if you just tell the average donor that they can specify how their money must be used, it won't fall on deaf ears. They actually do it. IMHO, it's my own little grass-roots effort to choke off the cashflow to the anti-hunting lobby and actually force this monster to put their money where their mouth is, and actually feed some dogs and neuter some cats.

I really don't hate PETA members, because they really are donating with the best of intentions. Who I do hate is the PETA leadership, and I feel like I'm doing my part to make their life more difficult.

If we, as hunters, could convince 25% of PETA's donors to specify that their donations are not to be used for anti-hunting efforts, it will undoubtedly decrease the amount of funds lobbied in the war on hunting.

I guess it's my own way of attempting to kill PETA from the inside, like a tapeworm.

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I think you can say that about some contributors, certainly not all. Many know and want their money to go for anti-hunting purposes. Many of these are quite beligerant about their stance on the subject.

That is a total joke--I'm sure most here have better things to do than try to convince peta "members" to make sure they earmark their donations correctly.

I'd rather convince them to cancel their donations and membership or just laugh at them on my way to the woods or river, however, since you have to validate your own contributions to them with this type of bs, then perhaps you should keep writing those checks and be a good little boy

hb

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It must really offend you that I gave $50 of my hard-earned to PETA to spay and neuter dogs. Guess what? I'll be doing it again next year. I'll be giving them $50 bucks/year because it makes me feel good knowing that I've done my part to foot the bill to administer the feeding, care, gas, and burial of abandoned dogs. I can't help it, I like dogs.

Yeah, wave your gun at 'em, throw 'em the finger, leave a bag of deer poop on their porch, or verbally engage them with your stiff wits. Get a Pee on PETA sticker, that'll show 'em.

That's exactly the type of barbaric behaviour that fuels these peoples' fires. Keep up the good work, hillbillyhunter, and I'm sure their largest benefactors will double their donations, and make our lives even more difficult.

Can't see the forest for the trees?? Stay in the hills.

F.Y.I. - I hunt on a farm owned by an widowed older woman who donates over $5,000 /year to animal-friendly organizations. Through my efforts and sensible discussion, I convinced her to earmark her donations from now on. She also advised colleagues to do the same. She had no idea exactly what was being done with her money.

What have you done lately??

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plus I'm sure it makes your fiance so proud.
I don't care particularly. But you came on here wanting validation for your contributions (no matter what their intended for) to a group that is definately against all hunters, fisherman, ranchers, or anyone else that does anything but pet animals.............................and you didn't get it.

So, if you don't like the answer, maybe you shouldn't ask the question.


Did I say I did any of that?

when I feel it is appropriate--thank you

please tell me that your not going to increase your own donations, because of what I've said, thereby making your own life more difficult.
Wouldn't make sense would it? or WOULD IT? (twilight zone theme playing)

wrote a letter to my goobermint rep asking for the revocation of their 501(c) status--perhaps that may deter a few donations as well

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HA!