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live2hunt743 02-21-2005 04:00 PM

Shoot it or not?
 
This situation has come up all over the U.S and I wanted your opinion.

Its the first day of deer season. You're hunting in your favorite spot. You hear shots ringing out all around you. Suddenly one goes off very close. A minute or so later a fairly nice sized deer comes bolting through the woods and falls down 20 yards from you. You walk over and find that it was shot in the gut and is still alive. You can't legally shoot it but do you put it out of its misery anyways? Just wondering what you guys all thought.

DoctorDeath 02-21-2005 04:04 PM

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I would not hesitate law or not ...I put the animal out of its misery!!

T-bird 02-21-2005 04:17 PM

RE: Shoot it or not?
 
Kill it --- then give it to the guy (or gal) who shot it in the first place, even though you fired the killing shot. That's the ethically correct thing to do -- and doing what's right is all that matters.

cardeer 02-21-2005 04:19 PM

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Just curious ,Why is it illegal to shoot it????

live2hunt743 02-21-2005 04:30 PM

RE: Shoot it or not?
 
I think i remember it being illegal because it wasn't your deer or something. I just remember the instructors in Hunters Safety telling us that it was illegal. It may be legal in some states.

bawanajim 02-21-2005 04:40 PM

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Any deer that you can see is wounded I.E.broken legs belly shot Should be finished even if you must us your own tag.This is about the right thing to do.Don't you get sick of seeing a goose or duck on TV swimming around with an arrow thru it that some jerk shot just to see if they could hit it.Hunters already take alot of cheap shots over a few idiots.

rob1 02-21-2005 04:53 PM

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I would finish it off, then wait for whomever shot it to come looking for it, so I could show them where it is, and help them get it out of the woods.

121553 02-21-2005 04:54 PM

RE: Shoot it or not?
 
Oh-Oh, here we go again. Ethical situation, huh?
I would shoot it and wait for the party who shot the illegal deer and obtain as much imfo about the individual/vechilcle and call the local game warden/deputy sheriff and let him know what had happened.
Reminds me of a situation that happened to me a few year back when motorists were parked along the road here and a doe was doing cartwelts in a barb-wire fence, people just watching, its skin torn/ripped and bleating and shoulder popped out of socket, it was a very nasty and bloody scene and I shot it with my 357 once killing it instantly. I guess someone had called the game warden and we both were untangling the deer from the strands of wire while bystanders watching/tring to assist us and the warden had told me that I'm going to have to give you a ticket for shooting the deer because there was a possiblity that the deer could of gotten loose, I told him, well do what you got to do. We loaded the deer in the back of his p. u. and wipped ourself off and then he told me after everyone left to get the hell outta here. I said, Yes, Sir.;)

WrackMaster 02-21-2005 04:56 PM

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Been there, done that. Wouldn't hesitate to do it again.

Rhody Hunter 02-21-2005 05:23 PM

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definately shoot it don't let it suffer.

Washington Hunter 02-21-2005 05:28 PM

RE: Shoot it or not?
 
I ask myself, "Self, why the hell are there gun shots going off during archery season?"

Allseasonhunter7 02-21-2005 05:47 PM

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who ever kills it its there deer imo

Allen Denton 02-21-2005 06:00 PM

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I hunt in a club that if the deer makes it to you and is running or moving and you shot it it is yours. In this case of the deer being down, I would sahot it to kill it and give it to the person that shot it.

JerseyJim 02-21-2005 06:28 PM

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I would shoot it and when the guy or gal came looking for it I would tell him or her about the wounded one that looked just like this one that kept running! LOL! Just kidding! Kill it and let the other guy have it! Then go get my own!

4wheeldrive 02-21-2005 06:52 PM

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been there had to do it, cant stand to see an animal suffer

bwhunter501 02-21-2005 07:06 PM

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ORIGINAL: Washington Hunter

I ask myself, "Self, why the hell are there gun shots going off during archery season?"
LOL thats kinda what i was thinkin?[8D]

Firehawk7309 02-21-2005 08:04 PM

RE: Shoot it or not?
 
Finish the animal off. More than likely, the hunter who shot it knew that it was a bad shot. Wait for the hunter and let the person know the outcome. They should be thankful that they found it and didn't have to track a gut shot deer. I believe the problem would be if you tried to claim it as your own.

Washington Hunter 02-21-2005 11:07 PM

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On a more serious note, I would put the animal down. I would then holler at the other hunter to let them know that their animal was down. I know that if another hunter did this for me and allowed me to take the animal I would be greatly appreciative.

Jimmy S 02-22-2005 01:48 PM

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There may a few priorities here, buy the #1 is to the animal. We owe it to the deer to put it down as quickly as possible.
There is no other alternative.

If you want to tag it, fine. If you want to try to give it to the hunter that initially shot the deer, fine.

It should all be academic at that point!

1950KID 02-22-2005 02:01 PM

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If you have a tag, it's legal.

AJ52 02-22-2005 03:36 PM

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If I could see the guy who gut shot it I'd let him do the dirty work. If not I'd put it down(legal here). That's a hell uv way for an animal to go.

A slob on our farm did the same thing this past season. Gut shot a nice buck.What a mess! A gut trail all thru woods. It ran to adjacent farm and BOOOM. Same slob(I know it was him) shot at running deer(Doe) with smoke pole! Thought he didn't hit it. Two days later It walked thru woods with upper jaw shot up and tounge hanging out,gasping for air. Geeez - I did not want that deer but I put it down and gave it to another hunter on farm.

What about this one;
I had 2 bucks walk 10-15 yrds from my stand this Jan. I had already shot 1 buck in Nov and was confined to 15" or better buck. 1st buck(4pnt) was on 3 legs. L/F leg was stuck/locked under body!! He needed to be culled for obvious reasons. I couldn't take him legaly - I let it walk. What do you do in that case. Ck it in and you get a nice citation from the man! BTW the 2nd buck was 8pnt but not 15" - let him walk.

WrackMaster 02-22-2005 05:18 PM

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What about this one;
I had 2 bucks walk 10-15 yrds from my stand this Jan. I had already shot 1 buck in Nov and was confined to 15" or better buck. 1st buck(4pnt) was on 3 legs. L/F leg was stuck/locked under body!! He needed to be culled for obvious reasons. I couldn't take him legaly - I let it walk. What do you do in that case. Ck it in and you get a nice citation from the man! BTW the 2nd buck was 8pnt but not 15" - let him walk.
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The deciding factor for me would be--If you think he's going to live,let him go.If he looks like he's going to die anyway--shoot him.

Slamfire 02-22-2005 10:06 PM

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I am truly amazed at all the altruism displayed here, shoot the deer and tag it. I don't care what the guy at the hunter's safety course said, the deer belongs to the one who reduced it to possession. :eek:

BOWFANATIC 02-23-2005 12:15 AM

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I don't care what the guy at the hunter's safety course said, the deer belongs to the one who reduced it to possession.

:( Just because you chose to ignore simple ethics lessons please dont try and pass your B.S. on to our young hunters!

Nicholal 02-23-2005 02:06 AM

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ORIGINAL: 121553

Oh-Oh, here we go again. Ethical situation, huh?
I would shoot it and wait for the party who shot the illegal deer and obtain as much imfo about the individual/vechilcle and call the local game warden/deputy sheriff and let him know what had happened.

Sorry 121553
no one said there was an illegal shot deer. But I'd do the same if I figured some one was poaching or tresspassing

AL

dhunterinla 02-23-2005 05:41 AM

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Put it out of it's misery in a heartbeat, then settle back and wait for the person who shot it to clue them in about it's location.

RTA47 02-23-2005 10:35 AM

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Well lets see if you don`t shoot it there could be a chance that the animal could run off and die and never be found by anyone and have a long suffering death? (IMO)Which is wrong no matter what!! (TAKE IT DOWN AND PUT IT OUT OF ITS SUFFERING AND SETTLE WHO`S DEER IT IS LATER!!! rta47..

121553 02-23-2005 10:49 AM

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nichol, I thought it was an illegal deer because he said he couldn't shoot it. Why is some else allowed to shoot it and not him? Maybe I just misunderstood the ? :eek: My apology. Bobby

deersniper101 02-23-2005 10:49 AM

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i remember 1 time this 16 year old blew off the leg of a nice 8 pnt and i found it and shot it and he was talkin with his buddies about how he shot it in the leg and blew it off and didnt bother going after it cause he was to lazy then when i said i shot one with the leg blown off he said he wanted it that aint right


micdundee 02-23-2005 12:35 PM

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I would shoot it instantly. I wouldn't even have to think about it.

hillbillyhunter1 02-23-2005 12:59 PM

RE: Shoot it or not?
 

ORIGINAL: 121553

Oh-Oh, here we go again. Ethical situation, huh?
I would shoot it and wait for the party who shot the illegal deer and obtain as much imfo about the individual/vechilcle and call the local game warden/deputy sheriff and let him know what had happened.
Reminds me of a situation that happened to me a few year back when motorists were parked along the road here and a doe was doing cartwelts in a barb-wire fence, people just watching, its skin torn/ripped and bleating and shoulder popped out of socket, it was a very nasty and bloody scene and I shot it with my 357 once killing it instantly. I guess someone had called the game warden and we both were untangling the deer from the strands of wire while bystanders watching/tring to assist us and the warden had told me that I'm going to have to give you a ticket for shooting the deer because there was a possiblity that the deer could of gotten loose, I told him, well do what you got to do. We loaded the deer in the back of his p. u. and wipped ourself off and then he told me after everyone left to get the hell outta here. I said, Yes, Sir.;)
Bobby
The thing that also sucks about that situation is that those overhearing what the game warden said to you initially (about how he would have to give you a ticket) might be even more inclined to not help a suffering animal the next time----The game warden should have praised you in front of the others for doing the right thing

m.t.hands 02-23-2005 01:19 PM

RE: Shoot it or not?
 
when i lived in texas i burnt on of my tags on a 3 legged spike, the deer had lost his leg from the knee joint down, the little buck might have weighed 70 lbs. and he would run 10-30 yards and lean against a tree. this dude was in bad shape and i really think i did him a favor, as should be done on any animal that is suffering, law or not, jmo

adams 02-23-2005 02:45 PM

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I'd finish him off. My personal ethics would not allow me to watch an animal suffer. I may pay a hefty fine if caught but imo it's the "right" thing to do.

121553 02-23-2005 04:46 PM

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Hillbillie, the time we got the deer untangled and dragged to his truck and loaded he was rheeming me a new A-hole all the way lecturing me, I think I would of rathered paid the fine and not have the lecture because I can still hear him. He told me he had reasons for confiscating my truck, pistol and loose my hunting rights for 3 yrs and then pay restitution for the deer. Give me a Break Dude. But what he was doing was sending a signal to the other folks that you better have a dang good reason for pulling a trigger on a game animal in the off season. But I would do it again. ;) S.S.S. Bobby

Slamfire 02-23-2005 08:54 PM

RE: Shoot it or not?
 

ORIGINAL: BOWFANATIC


:( Just because you chose to ignore simple ethics lessons please dont try and pass your B.S. on to our young hunters!
I don't know what kind of ethics you are tryin' to teach, but it runs contrary to the law. Some day your young hunters are gonna expect someone to give up game that the youngster has wounded and all heck is gonna break out. It is better for you to teach how the world works than how you wish it did, the transition from child to adult is tough enough.

bushmaster_5bko 02-24-2005 08:00 AM

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I'd shoot it, put it out of its misery and give it to the first guy who hit it

cutter81 02-24-2005 07:36 PM

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Although i've heard several times that the person who puts the killing shot on the game is the person who claims it, i'd shoot it and give it to the other guy ar gal. It's just the right thing to do in this situation. Either way I wouldn't let it lay there suffering.

dhuntingr 02-24-2005 08:34 PM

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Up here in New York if they dident put a fatal shot on it the first time u can shoot it and clam it because they dident put a fatal shot on it....


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