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treehunter 01-26-2005 06:33 AM

NOT MY STAND
 
There are only 5 days left in this season and have a question. I was doing a bit of scouting a couple of days ago and ran into an older wood stand in a tree in a perfect place at the bottom of the mountain overlooking 3 or 4 fields. This spot looks like something off of t.v. that the pro's hunt. This stand is an older stand with a newer wood ladder, so i know somebody has used it this season. It is very secluded so it's not like it is in anybody's back yard. My question is should i get into this weekend? I don't think we have any crazy Humongs down here so i think the worst thing that would happen is somebody telling me to get out of it. Since this is the last weekend.....What would you guy's do?

Charlie P 01-26-2005 06:51 AM

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You talking public land??

I wouldn't hunt someone elses stand especially an old wood one.If it was priviate property talk to whomever gave you permission and find out who put it there. Then you can ask if it's allright to sit or find out if the person will be there this weekend, if he's not and doesn't want you in his stand sit on the ground or pop in a portable.

treehunter 01-26-2005 07:01 AM

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this is private property......i have been hunting back there my whole life. In this area the farmers don't care if people hunt their land as long as people take care of it. It would be very difficult to find who put the stand there and almost impossible before the weekend. I know state law says you have to have written permission to hunt private property, but like i said the owners don't care and wouldn't call the game warden. I guess you would have to live here to understand the situation. I know that alot of people are not as fortunate to have access to thousands of acres like this. I'm just thinking about taking the risk.

Charlie P 01-26-2005 07:05 AM

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I'd throw up a potable stand or sit on the ground.

Lefty Pa 01-26-2005 08:38 AM

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I think if it's not your stand don't hunt out of it. put your own beside it. Sore spot with me, public land or private multi hunters, guy puts stand in tree ,maybe he never comes back all year and no buddy else can hunt around their rest of year. I had permission to hunt a farm when I was scouting for a very large 10 point, I heard noise walked over and talked to a guy that hunted their before.I told him I would stay out of his area that his stand was in., that's when he told me he had stands all over the place. Well that's when I told him to give me his schedule when he would hunt each stand sence he could only hunt one stand at a time. he did't like that

Am I wrong or not.

LeftyPa

CalNewbie 01-26-2005 10:23 AM

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Lefty Pa - You made the effort to ask, what more could you do. Likely the other guy didn't have a schedule, just hit whatever stand he thought would pay off, might even switch around during the day. If you both had permission to hunt the land and you get to an area first, then out of mutual respect he should just use one of his other stands. Now if the other guy is the landowner and I simply hunt with permission, I'd offer to move on if he wanted to hunt an area I had set up in for the day.

cardeer 01-26-2005 10:44 AM

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Stay out respect the other guy

treehunter 01-26-2005 11:34 AM

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what if there is not another guy? What if the person that put up the stand is not using it? There are so many "what if's" and so little time. I think i will use it or put up my climber in the same area and if somebody does show up, i will happily leave. Like I said it's the last weekend. May be worth the effort and the risk.

Racor 01-26-2005 11:42 AM

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Don't think it's worth the risk.

If it's not yours don't use it. Respect the other hunter as you would want someone to respect you. You might be messing up his/her last weekend of hunting as well as yours.

Charlie P 01-26-2005 11:43 AM

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Sounds like you had your mind made up before you posted the question.

Champlain Islander 01-26-2005 12:27 PM

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Racor right on. It always boils down to ethics and respect for your fellow sportsmen.

ELKINMTCWB 01-26-2005 12:43 PM

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If it was my stand built from wood I would like you to hunt it. I carve my name in all my wooden stands for this reasion with my number. BY law in most stats a stand on comon ground is far play any one can hunt in it. The law says the 1st one there has tottal right to hunt it. I do not think this is right but if no one is in it hunt it.If they come talk to them say sorry move on.I have walked up on many of my stands with guys in them no real problems YET.Most every one of the hunters climbed out befor I got to the stand.

If you are going to hunt where every one can hunt then there is some things you must live with.It is way better than them steeling my stand to put it some where they would like.My buds that are pains in the but when they walk up on some one in there stand loose several stands every year.I think this is due to the fack they are not nice at all if some one is in there stand and they make a big deal of it.

treehunter 01-26-2005 01:14 PM

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i didn't have my mind made up before posting the question....otherwise i wouldn't have asked. I am just trying to get a feel for what other people think. I am still trying to find out who owns the stand and get in touch with him.

adams 01-26-2005 01:36 PM

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IMO if you own a climber I'd bring it in and claim a tree in the area if you set on hunting it. There is little I like less then finding someone in my stand. Some stands only get hunted a couple time a year due to only hunting it when the winds are right. When you hunt someone else stand you just don't know why it's vacant or that persons mind set should they find you in there stand. Play safe and use good etiquette.

hillbillyhunter1 01-26-2005 02:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lefty Pa

I think if it's not your stand don't hunt out of it. put your own beside it. Sore spot with me, public land or private multi hunters, guy puts stand in tree ,maybe he never comes back all year and no buddy else can hunt around their rest of year. I had permission to hunt a farm when I was scouting for a very large 10 point, I heard noise walked over and talked to a guy that hunted their before.I told him I would stay out of his area that his stand was in., that's when he told me he had stands all over the place. Well that's when I told him to give me his schedule when he would hunt each stand sence he could only hunt one stand at a time. he did't like that

Am I wrong or not.

LeftyPa


You are wrong in one sense--- . That is you should have never told the guy that you would stay out of the area his stand was in, in the first place (if you both had equal permission to hunt). you still could have shown respect for his area initially and stayed out, but then if you figured out that he wasn't there very much, you could go in with ease of mind and wouldn't have to worry about him saying to you later on "I thought you said you were going to stay away from here". If you hadn't said that in the first place then there would have been no need to ask for a schedule (which I'm sure would be impossible to provide)

I would submit though that a person should TRY not to get in someone else's stand--if possible. It will make you feel like a total a$$ if you get caught w/o permission. plus there are safety concerns about how sturdy it still is. It could ruin your day.....It might also make you uneasy once you're up there thinkin' you might get caught and not be able to concentrate enough on the hunt

Lefty Pa 01-26-2005 05:49 PM

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I ask if I was right or wrong. I think this guy puts stands up to keep to keep every one out. when my buddy talked to him he said O yea I hunt over their too.
Just wanted to hear what you guys thought.

LeftyPa

i shoot stuff 01-26-2005 07:55 PM

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think of the incident that happend a few months ago dude was in someone eles stand and they got in a argument and the dude shot kids and men hunting there. so if i was u i would just sit on the ground by it.

Booney160 01-26-2005 08:24 PM

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If I were you I wouldn't hunt out of it. This past season I shot two bucks with a gun, both out of someone elses stand and after all of it I regret shooting both. They were the first two bucks I've ever harvested with a gun, the first one was on my friends stand, I helped him move it that day and he couldn't hunt it that evening so he offered it to me. So I took it and shot a decent 9 that I thought was bigger than it was. Found out later that he had passed that one up a few times earlier in the season. Later that week, my uncle offered me his stand. He only hunts the first day of the season and is done, so it's open. I hunted in it one evening and took a 8 with a 17 3/4 inch inside spread. Also felt bad for taking it, it just takes away from the experience not being from your stand. Both of them were happy for me, but it just wasn't the same. But that's how I guess I felt, others may feel completely fine with it. I wouldn't hunt from it, find another place. If you have all that land "thousands of acres" as you say I'm sure you can find another good place to hunt, it can't be the only good stand location.

Canadian Bush Wacker 01-26-2005 09:06 PM

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here is a easly way to answer it all, if you did not put it there, or bring it in, or pay for it, KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF,AND THAT MEANS YOUR ASS TOO.
Can I use your ATV while your in my stand???. Can I drive your Truck??
I can make a list much longer, shake your head and use common sence and respect. Please let me find you in my stand, Putz

Jack Ryan 01-26-2005 10:17 PM

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Putting up a stand doesn't mean they own it.

People try that crap on P. L. here all the time. They think the got a lease on ten acres of public land because they hang $25 worth of junk on a tree.

The law says, first come first serve.

Leave it hanging in the tree and I'll use it if I want. If they come and want to take it down, I'll get down. But I'm not moving on just because they left their stuff out there from last year.

I know a place where a guy has 15 of those junk home made wooden ladder stands 8 feet tall set out across a few hundred acres of public land. He leaves them until they rot and thinks he can run everybody around because, "Hey, you are in/ on / around my stand." Screw him.

Rwalter63 01-26-2005 11:51 PM

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Personally first I wouldn't trust some one elses wooden stand. It may look sturdy but I am not a light wieght and when the first good gust of wind kicks up I wouldn't feel safe. Secondly If I owned a climber, and I do (Summit Viper) I'd much rather sit in that over any wood stand anyway. Its more comfortable than any wood or steel ladder stand that I have ever sat in. I also own seven 15-16" high steel ladder stands from various manufacturers and have sat in my fair share of wooden ones. ( My ladder stands are all on my property that I own.). Lastly just use good etiquette. If you do use the stand offer to get out of it if the owner shows up. More than likely he'll end up moving on to another stand anyways since your already in the stand. Personally I would since I have my climber this would never be an issue with me, I'd just use my Viper.

Chuck7 01-27-2005 03:15 AM

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Tough call. I would probably move on if that ladder looks new. I'm talking about 200 yds or so. I might take a risk and put a climber near his and hunt during a week day.Whenever I see a stand that may be getting use, I move on. Of course I also hunt WMA. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

Chcuk

m.t.hands 01-27-2005 08:20 AM

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I know a place where a guy has 15 of those junk home made wooden ladder stands 8 feet tall set out across a few hundred acres of public land. He leaves them until they rot and thinks he can run everybody around because,
i was in a club once (3500 acres/10 members) and there was one guy that everytime you signed into an area he'd say " i got a stand over there" so what am i suppossed to do? not hunt anything he's got a stand close to, he can't sit in all of them at once, and i'm giving him and others in the club that come in behind me an idea of where i'll be. the only down-side to this is if they know you kill a deer or 2 they start following you around and hunting the area when your not there.

treehunter 01-27-2005 09:17 AM

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here is a easly way to answer it all, if you did not put it there, or bring it in, or pay for it, KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF,AND THAT MEANS YOUR ASS TOO.
Can I use your ATV while your in my stand???. Can I drive your Truck??
I can make a list much longer, shake your head and use common sence and respect. Please let me find you in my stand, Putz

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If it fits on the bbq, shoot it
first of all, to all of those that gave decent replies and opinions, thank you. For ass holes like the canadian penis wacker, grow up and use a little decency when you reply. If you have an opinion, please feel free to give it. If you can't do it with tact, don't bother giving your thoughts.

treestandstealth 01-27-2005 11:10 AM

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If I did not put up the stand them I would not get in it. You would just be risking it.

WantBuck 01-27-2005 04:54 PM

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Just curious,if the owner shows up pissed because maybe he's had bad experiences this season with other hunters in his stand and wanted to settle it with the law because he's fed up.I guess this is Bama guys since each state is different but whats the penalty.Fine,getting sued,worse maybe?A buddy of mine told me that it's a $150 dollar fine.I guess the owner could take it further if he wanted to right?I would just like to know incase someone was tresspassing my land and did it repeatedly.
Thanks,
JE

Canadian Bush Wacker 01-27-2005 09:09 PM

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Really now who is being decent now, and might need of alot more tact than myself. And you gave no opion on the post, just a insult to me.

ORIGINAL: treehunter


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RE: NOT MY STAND (in reply to Champlain Islander)


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here is a easly way to answer it all, if you did not put it there, or bring it in, or pay for it, KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF,AND THAT MEANS YOUR ASS TOO.
Can I use your ATV while your in my stand???. Can I drive your Truck??
I can make a list much longer, shake your head and use common sence and respect. Please let me find you in my stand, Putz

_____________________________

If it fits on the bbq, shoot it
first of all, to all of those that gave decent replies and opinions, thank you. For ass holes like the canadian penis wacker, grow up and use a little decency when you reply. If you have an opinion, please feel free to give it. If you can't do it with tact, don't bother giving your thoughts.

Pa Trophy Man 01-27-2005 09:50 PM

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Don't be that guy that climbs up in anothers stand, nothing burns me up more than finding somebody else sitting in my stand.

turkeyhunter_15 01-27-2005 10:32 PM

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Commen Sense,
Private Propority...Land Thats Not Yours That You DO NOT Have Permission To Be On Stay Off...Any Smart Hunter Knows That...Respect The Other Guys Propority...Would It Be So Hard To Ask The Guy?

Rwalter63 01-27-2005 10:46 PM

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Treehunter what did you end up doing, It you don't want to say thats ok. As I said earlier If I owned a climber I just put that up and use it, but now that your seasons over I'd find out who owns the property and go talk to them about that stand just to clarify it for next season. If you were lucky enough to get a deer this year bring the guy a couple of vension steaks and thank him for letting you hunt on his property. By doing this you'll earn his respect and you'll find out who owns that stand or atleast who has permission to hunt on the property. That way when it comes to next year you'll be set. Good Luck and Happy Hunting.

treehunter 01-28-2005 07:01 AM

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our season is not over yet. The 31st is the last day. I did get in touch with the guy and it is perfectly fine that i hunt there this weekend. Thanks for everyones opinion. I feel the same way as most of you guy's. I don't like using somebody's stuff without asking first. I was just trying to see what others thought, if it came down to not being able to get in touch with the guy. I was considering it though because it is such a prime location. Thanks again.

turkeyhunter_15 01-28-2005 06:58 PM

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What I Dont Understand Is Why Even Make This Post???
A Hunter Of Commen Sense Knows To Ask First.[:'(]

treehunter 01-31-2005 07:59 AM

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What I Dont Understand Is Why Even Make This Post???
A Hunter Of Commen Sense Knows To Ask First.
No.....a hunter of common sense knows how to spell common. I was just trying to get everyone elses opinion. And if you don't understand the object of a forum is to make posts and ask questions, then maybe you are not a hunter of common sense. If you don't agree then just say "I don't agree". No need to criticize someone because your beliefs may differ from theirs.

Charlie P 01-31-2005 08:24 AM

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So what did you do?

treehunter 01-31-2005 08:30 AM

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like i said the other day, i found out who owned the land and got permission. I hunted in that thing all day yesterday and didn't see a thing. I did almost hit a 4 pointer on the way there though. It was dark still and just before going around a curve, he ran into the road from the left. After seeing him, i thought it was going to be a pretty good morning, but i guess mother nature had other plans. Well, anyways, maybe next season since this one come to an end today but i'm stuck at work.


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