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RE: How to ask permission to hunt.
 

Sort of like the old boy at the dance, if you don't ask you won't ever know.

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You have nothing to lose and everything to gain so you might as well give it a shot.If th neighbor was really interested in the bow offer to introduce her to archery and if that takes you might offer to teach them to bowhunt.Another angle is if you are hunting someone is keeping an eye on their land and keeping poachers away.

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Go for it. Tell them what a good shot you are with your bow. Tell them you would only shoot at a deer if it was 30 yards away or less, and you would only take shots that you know you could get a clean kill because you never let them get away wounded. Tell them they could have half the deer meat. Tell them that you like to carry a trash bag with you so you can pick up any trash you find in the woods, because you hate to see trash in the woods. Tell them there are too many deer on the property and some of them should be taken. I use tactics like this and I am the luckiest guy at getting hunting permission.

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I find that a straight approach works as good as anything to get permission .If someone comes up and starts talking about everything but what he wants it kind of turns people off .thats been my experience with it .

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RE: How to ask permission to hunt.
 

Just be polite and straight forward, if you all are friends all ready, half the battle is won, it would not hurt offering to police for trespassers or doing odd little jobs every once in awhile either. Introducing her to archery would be a good idea to, however I would wait until she brought up the subject of her hunting, you do not want her to think that the only reason you would teach her how to shoot is to hunt. Go for it, ask.

The Tazman

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I had the same dilemma this year. I had just moved into a new house last year and an older lady lives across the street on our dead end street. She owns the 85 acres behind her house 25acres pasture and the rest hardwoods and scrub. She was very friendly, but I asked around before I asked her and found out noone hunted the property. I eventually got up the nerve to ask her and she told me she didn't like when an animal was killed, but knew that overpopulation was also bad. She told me as long as I didn't take anybody else I could go. I said that's fine with me.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>85 acres all my own. wow!! I took a nice buck off the property this year and gave her pick of the steaks/burger/sausage. You've gotta try to ask permission or you'll never know!! BTW I was not the only person using the acreage. I found a permanent wood stand with fresh cigarette butts under it. I hate packing out someone else's trash!!

Dan Blair

Edited by - Dan B on 01/08/2002 07:08:18

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One more important thing to remeber, If the landowner say's no, don't stand there and pursue the issue. Kindly say thanks and leave. This will leave you with an oppurtunity to come back next year (well before the season begins) and ask again.

Sometimes, persistance pay's off.

RE: How to ask permission to hunt.
 

smokpole mentioned one of the most important parts in asking permission, if you get turned down, be polite and thank them for talking with you, even though you may never get permission to hunt their land, because you were polite their neighbor may let you. If you are a jerk about it, the neighbor will hear from them and you can forget it. I always make sure I am dressed in clean, casual clothes and clean shaven when I ask to hunt someones property. Remember you represent every hunter in the world to the person you are asking permission from so we all expect each other to represent each other well.

The Tazman

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I would suggest typing up a letter which I have done in the past and simply place it in the mailbox if it is someone you don't know. I would tell them about being willing to help do chores around the land, being an ethical hunter etc. This way they know what kind of person they are dealing with, without being pressured into answering right away. Face it, folks who own land have absolutely nothing to gain by giving a person they don't know permission to carry a gun, bow etc. around on their property. Yet, they have a lot to lose. Like one old fella I met who let his relatives hunt on his property and he ended up with buckshot hitting his house. Do you think I had a chance in hell of being able to hunt this guys property - thanks to the poor examples of hunters before me? Take a wild guess at the answer I got.

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Another thing to consider is offering to lease the property. 60 acres at 5.00 per acre may get the hunting rights if you can't get it for free. Offering to purchase
hunters insurance to release the landowner from liability may also help.

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there have been several good suggestions here, one I was recently introduced to was a buisness card. It gives your name, address, and a written promise to be ethical if given permission. It also provides a form for permission to hunt on the other half, one half for the landowner to keep, and one for them to fill out and return if they decide to allow you to hunt thier land. I think it in addition to the letter in the mailbox, with either your phone # or a return addressed and postage paid envelope would be the way to go. This is not particularly in response to the original poster, but just a idea in general

Corey

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England_sk8r,
If you're refering to my &quot;older lady&quot; she has a lawn service come in once a week and the guy she's got is good because he does everything. I'm trying to be more neighborly and go across the street about once every couple of weeks or so and offer to do anything for her, but she just says the lawn guy will do it. She also has him plow her driveway in the winter. $75 a week I think she pays him for about 1 1/2 hours worth of work. I think I need to start a lawn service!! LOL

Dan Blair

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I think I would wait for awhile and then ask for next year.It seems the hunters next to her still leave a bad taste in her mouth.I would let things cool down offer to help put up new signs to keep out the slob hunters and that will show her what type of hunter you are.

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I think you should just come out and ask her and if she lets you after you are done give her a thank you card or something nice.


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RE: How to ask permission to hunt.
 

i see it as like asking out a pretty girl. it may seem very intimadating but the reward could be great..if they say no then at least you tried. it seems to me that you already have a step up on the situation because you are friends with these people..just be polite and offer to help them on the farm ect.

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All good suggestions! If your turned down dont get upset. Be polite and thank them, and also tell them if the chance ever comes that someone would be allowed to hunt the property, you would really appreciate the oppurtunity!

Also if you see they need a hand doing something one day, stop by and help out, dont wait to be asked for your assistance!

It worked for me! I visitted a friends vacation property every summer for years. I had told them I would die for the chance to hunt that property. Every summer 10+ I was there I did some work on the property(roof/deck/boathouse/firewood). A group of locals had the permission to hunt the last 25 years. They did a couple things the owner didnt like, I now have the permission!

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Tips to use when asking permission:

1. Ask in the spring rather than right before the hunting season.
2. Do it in person, dress neatly, and be polite.
3. If you have a business card, present it, along with your home phone number on the back.
4. Have a typed permission slip already drawn up, like the cards speedbuggy referred to. The cards should not only grant permission, but should also have your code of conduct stated so the landowner knows what to expect from you. He or she signs the permission portion, you sign the code portion. Have a copy for each of you. (Written permission is a great thing to have when you run across another hunter hunting land where he shouldn't be; simply show him your permission and ask to see his!)
5. Ask for permission to hunt groundhogs or other pests during the summer before the deer season. Folks who don't like deer hunting often like having the varmints gotten rid of, and this give you opportunity to build a relationship and demonstrate your ethics.
6. Offer to help out around the place in exchange for permission to hunt. A good time to ask is when a farmer is out working on a project that can use another set of hands. Pitch in!
7. If denied, politely thank them for their time and leave your business card with them! It's quite possible they may rethink their stance and you want them to be able to get in touch with you.

Then there is the whole ethic of what to do when you ARE granted permission:

1. Ask if there are any stipulations, like how far away from any buildings you should stay, or if there are any other areas that are &quot;off limits.&quot;
2. Unless otherwise indicated by the landowner, always telephone in your hunting plans at least a day in advance. I did this with one family for two years, and they finally said, &quot;Hey, just come and use the property whenever you want to; no need to check in.&quot;
3. If you are successful, check in with them. Couple of the farms I hunt have kids, and they love to see the game taken. Builds relationship.
4. Offer some of the game . . . after it has been processed. I took three deer, my son another, so our freezer is packed. We took the equivalent of an entire deer--cut, packed, labeled, and frozen, out to the farm and it was much appreciated.

These tips have worked for me and others. Best of luck.

cogito, ergo armatus sum.

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I prefer to ask to hunt in person, either catch farmers at the coop or go up to their house. You've got it made in that aspect, you'll surely see the landowner at the stables when you are checking your horse, just mention it in conversation. Ask something like, &quot; would it be alright if I hunted out here sometime?&quot; It's a nonconfrontational setup, and it doesn't sound desperate either. Don't be too depressed if they say no though, I know I wouldn't want ANYONE hunting on my horse pastures (I've actually shot at people who were). Ask them where it would be ok to hunt and what buildings or horses are around so that you can guarrantee that you won't shoot anything but deer or dirt, that's kind of a turn off on return trips if you shoot someones horse, or house for that matter!!!

RE: How to ask permission to hunt.
 

hey,
i was in the same situation.
i asked and was told yes
know i seams like im the persons slave, constantly being asked to do chores ect.
and whats worse is the person is thankless,
i help them and get no thank you .
im at the point of saying f, you and the land,
its just not worth it.
keep this in mind, you mightbe getting into more work than anticipated
mike

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Don't forget one thing...if you get permission, wheather you are successful or not, bring the person something every time you hunt. Bring something that this person can not get from the area they live. (i.e fresh bagels, bread). Buy them food (canned hams, dry sausages, wine). never come emptyhanded and dont be cheap! hunting land is scarce and precious.

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Bottom line.... Be POLITE. Ask once and if your declined say thank you and how you appreciate his time. Go back next year and try again... Don't get upset if they say no. If they say yes always offer some steak.