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Old 12-10-2004, 11:43 AM
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can anyone suggest a good gun for me i am 15 years old and before i was borrowing a bolt action .340 weatherby mag with a muzzle brake and i am thinking of getting a 30-06
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Old 12-10-2004, 11:58 AM
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If you are talking about deer hunting then look at the 7mm08 or 308. I have used about everything for deer hunting. This year I started out with the 30-06. Truth be told even though the 30-06 is one of the most popular deer guns in the world, Its really more gun than is needed for deer. I just bought a new 25-06 which I have not fired yet but it should be a near perfect deer rifle. The 270 is in the same class. If you are going to be hunting game bigger than deer then the 30-06 would be a good choice. I will never part with my 30-06 Remington pump but I think I have shot my last deer with it.
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Old 12-10-2004, 12:08 PM
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A bolt action rifle with a scope would be a natural choice, unless your circumstances are special (deer rifle for close-in brush hunting might rather lend itself to a short barreled lever action rifle, for example). A .340 Weatherby may be a bit much gun for even a full-grown, experienced adult shooter. Am I understanding you to say you have borrowed this rifle and shoot it and can use it for target practice -- say a box of 20 rounds or more per trip to the rifle range? If you are not a mature shooter, it is probably advisable to start with a milder cartridge and migrate to more powerful cartridges as you mature as a shooter. The danger of shooting powerful rifles too young is that one may develop a flinch rather than a controlled trigger pull. Of course, in individual cases mileage may vary.

Along the lines of milder cartridges, in order of increasing recoil:
.243: good for varmints, antelope, and deer
.25-06: good for varmints, antelope, deer, and perhaps sheep. More powerful than the .243.
.270: good for antelope, deer, sheep, and in the minds of some people, marginally suitable for elk. More powerful than the .25-06
.30-06: good for antelope, deer, sheep, mountain goats, elk, moose. More powerful than the .270, perhaps not as flat shooting as the above three cartridges, but if you aren't shooting over 300 yards you probably won't notice the difference.

I think you might be well advised to select your first rifle from among these very popular cartridges, leaning towards the lighter end of the scale. You know, you can use a rifle for awhile and then sell it later for perhaps 1/2 of your new purchased price. If you buy a used rifle, you may be able to sell it later for the same price you paid for it. The point is, you are not marrying yourself to this rifle for life: it is not a "til death do us part" arrangement. There are other suitable cartridges, but they are not so popular and hence the ammo is not so readily available at any mom and pop store.

As far as rifles themselves, the Remington Model 700 and Winchester Model 70 have many adherents. Ruger and Savage also make quality rifles, and perhaps are less expensive.

Try to buy a quality scope, as a low quality scope may betray you in a critical situation and cause to your missing a precious opportunity in the field. Again, you may wish to consider purchasing a used scope.

Provide more information about your needs and others or myself may provide further advice.
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Old 12-10-2004, 01:49 PM
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get a 308 the rifle around
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Old 12-10-2004, 03:39 PM
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I feel I must cast a vote for the 30-30, which never seems to get any respect, but it is: 1) a fine weapon for deer; 2) small, light , easy to carry and handle compared to other rifles, 3) less expensive, 4) easy to find ammo for, 5) fun to shoot.
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:09 PM
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what would be a good bullet weight if i am going hunting in bush and field and i am hunting for moose elk and deer all at the same time
the above quote was from a previous post so i would say the 06 would serve you well, as far as the bullet weights i'm not sure what would be your best choice as i have never moose hunted, but i can tell you the o6 and with the other 30 cal. you'll have the biggest selection of bullet weights, if i were going to guess i'd say a 180-220 gr. in a partition if you can get it. the heaviest bullet i have shot in the last 15+ years is a 162gr. .284/7mm

best of luck young man, and oh yea welcome to the board, it dose my heart good to see young people interested in the outdoors
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Old 12-10-2004, 04:30 PM
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ORIGINAL: SCRIDER1
I feel I must cast a vote for the 30-30, which never seems to get any respect, but it is: 1) a fine weapon for deer; 2) small, light , easy to carry and handle compared to other rifles, 3) less expensive, 4) easy to find ammo for, 5) fun to shoot.
A 30-30? You mean one of these? [8D]
I love my Marlin 30AS 30-30 with the huge Simmons Pro Hunter scope (soon going to swap the scope with something more reasonable).

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Old 12-10-2004, 05:12 PM
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I'll second what James said. The 30-06 is a fine caliber but if your not going to hunt anything larger than deer I would go with a another rifle that has less recoil.
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Old 12-10-2004, 09:40 PM
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A 30-30? You mean one of these?
I love my Marlin AS30 30-30 with the huge Simmons Pro Hunter scope (soon going to swap the scope with something more reasonable).

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AAAHHHH! Butch, isn't there some sort of law against putting a scope on a 30.30? I have a Winchester 1894-1994 Centennial edition 30.30 open sights. Your right, these are great little guns. One of my goals is a high country muley with this gun. Dang fun to shoot. Your Marlin is beautiful, even with a scope.
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Old 12-11-2004, 07:01 AM
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Hey stevo,
Im 15 and in the market for a new rifle myself...
What kind of terrain will you be hunting?
If you are in thick cover go with the ol' 30-30 (Winchester 94 )
If you hunt in mixed cover, with some close and some far shots Id go with a 7-08 or a .308, but if you expect your shots to be far, a 25-06 or .270 should work well

Just my 2 Cents
Good Luck !
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