RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

up untill the late 70's more elk had been killed with the .243 than any other caliber. But after that every one got magnumtitis.

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

you should read this article. This guy claims the .243 to be the best drop'em in their tracks caliber. "The ultimate deer cartridge"

and heres some testamonials.

http://www.udarrell.com/ultimate_deer_cartridge.htm

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

Rather than enter into this argument about velocity vs. energy ect. I choose a rifle on the application. Heavy brush or pine thickets, I use a Marlin 444. In semi open fields or extended shooting lanes .308. For open long distance hunting like Montana I think a 270 would do the trick.
I have no scientific data to back this up but it just seems logical to me.

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

and heres some more testamonlials
http://www.udarrell.com/ultimate_deer_cartridge_guests.htm

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

zrexpilot, sorry for telling you to shut it the other day...I feel bad now [&o]

The .243 is an EXCELLENT round for deer, I have seen enough kills to support .243 users!

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

like remington said b4 i can get more hittin power with a sling shot and a good coal ball

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

A bow shooting a 380gr. arrow at 270 fps has around 65 ft-lbs. of KE. Your telling me that 1000 ft-lbs is needed to take down a whitetail?

Cmon, shot placement is the key.

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

this is a exit wound from a 100 gr.243 win.power point this deer was shot at 100 yards.Distance measured with range finder.The deer fell dead in her tracks .

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

Velocity is just part of the energy just as bullet weight is. You can't seperate or pick between the two. Big slow bullets kill as do fast smaller bullets assuming that there is enough sectional density to promote penetration. Big fast bullets was Roy Weatherby's answer to this debate. Recoil was the down side. To me of all the vaiables, sectional density is what controls the result. That is its one of the most critical components to the equation. I pick my bullet by matching the sectional density of the bullet to the size and tennacity of the target animal. About 210 to 260 for deer size game. 260 to about 300 for Elk and moose size game and 300 on up for bigger heavier game. This is a rule of thumb but it works well for me. I have killed game with rifles from the 22-250 to the 45-70. The common denominator is always, SHOT PLACEMENT.

RE: Velocity verses Energy. (the debate)
 

BAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA THAT Deer has gangrene BAHAHAHAHA I WOULDNT EAT IT ITS FLESH IS EATING AWAY IT SURE AS HELL AINT NO EXIT WOUND BAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAAHAHAA