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I'm no expert on authenticity by any means but did it sound to anybody else like the cameraman was a lion? I mean the growling sounds like its right on top of you when the lions 100 yards away. Then as the lion charges in a dead spint you hear some regualr growling just like at the beginning and it gets no closer as he closes the distance. It also looks fake as he runs through the brush. JMHO but that video has got to be fake or else edited.

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How come I can't view the video????????????????????????????????

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Ahhhh, in answer to your question ---- no.
My outdoor action movies don't turn out much better, especially if I have to run/jump around --- this wasn't filmed by MGM in Hollywood.

Regarding the growl, I have heard that the sound of a charging lion (cough/growl) will chill you right to your toes, especially if it's you that he's coming for! A whole different league of play IMHO.

There is another lion charge clip where the lion actually takes the PH down --- the charging cough/growl is very pronounced in that one as well even though the camera man is "in the back of the pack."

Sorry, it is "oh just so foreign to 'us' over here" isn't it?

EKM

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Well, all I can say is watching that brute come ripping through the brush got my blood flowing. If just watching the video gets my heart rate up, I would love to be out there in the brush. I have seen Ghost in the Darkness, great flick, damn creepy too. I'm really warming up to an African hunt.

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Sh*t, after being nearly killed i would be high fiving my buddies too. Thats a situation where open sights would be of great help.

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BTT

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Wow I would of had quite a mess in my pants if a lion charged me

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James Vee , and elk i agree with everthing you guys said about the lion hunt vid.
i was wondering what outfitter you booked your lion hunt with james, it looks interesting
like something i will do in the futcher. as for hunting big game that you wont eat i will quote from the video the post man/with kevin cosner,(if you go get that lion there will be a lion steak in it for you). now i am not saying go to eat the family cat i am just saying that its bigger than deer, you pay to much to hunt it so you might as well eat it to.
i was raised not to wast anything,via starving kids in aisa







Don't spend all your money on beer, women, and shotguns. Save some to spend foolishly.

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Guys I'm not much of a rifle shooter/ballistics man, but will a shot between the eyes not drop a lion? The reason I ask is if that lion had a history of attacking people already I think I'd have put one right between his eyes in the first few frames of that video. Is there a reason they didn't do that?

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yes it will. it'll twich for about 3 to 5 minites after, but dont wory he would be dead before he hit's the ground, its just the nerves. but i guss they wanted to mount it. if you shot any animal in the head with a .458 lott (the gun that you should use)except a elephant or cape bufflo, there wouldent be a head left to mount, not even somthing to take a pic of. but i now where you are coming from. me and my grampa do it to save the meat on whitetail, via no adrenaline to spoil the meat, and its humane. we dont mount them unless they are big.






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They are BAD shots.
Almost big cat sh_t.
They were luckey that they did not shoot each other.
IMO not a very sporting way to hunt.

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i just read the first page of opinions and i think you're all a bunch of MORONS. I've read alot of stuff on Africa-Robert Ruark, Peter Capstick, Deaf Banks, all of the classics. And I have the utmost respect for those guys. its my dream someday to kill a lion. you guys have no idea what you're talking about. Saying they should use more gun or how can they miss at 5 feet, you should seriously just shut up. that thing is trying to kill you. the adrenaline is flowing. you dont have much time to get down on that cat and stick him before he starts gnawing on your arm. why would anyone want to kill them you ask? Because of the rush. thats the whole reason we hunt. its the rush of the kill. its just with these things, theres more adrenaline in it. its not like they're endangered and theres 5 or 6 of them left. theres tens of thousands of them. by hunting them, you support the local populations who would otherwise resort to poaching them.

Sure, the client messed up. but i think you guys probably couldnt do a whole lot better given the situation. i bought a movie of a guy in africa that taped his clients. cape buffalo charging, lions charging, shooting leopards, its the real deal.

bobby-how can you judge the hunting by what they wear? thats the garb in africa buddy, kahkis and shooting glasses and bush shorts.

i think the client was using enough gun. that is, unless the PH was a complete moron and let him use something under a .338. by the looks of it, it is enough. looks like a .375 maybe? And somebody asked why they have to be guided. Well, lets set you down in the middle of alaska and tell you to go kill a bear. kinda hard right? well, the guide gets you on the animals, gives you food and shelter, takes care of the carcasses, etc..plus its required by law in those countries.

Unprepared BHF? I would like you to remain calm and try hitting a lion running at 35 MPH right at you knowing thats it going to eat you if it gets you. hit it with every shot. bet you couldnt do it. that guy has balls just for going over there and trying to stick it again and again. the PH has balls because he's gotta back his client up whether the cat is dead on its feet or if its gut shot. obviously you guys are commenting on stuff you've never done or read anything serious about. I guess i can see where somebody that has never read about the subject could be turned off by that video. sure, it was dangerous shooting around people. but having a wounded lion around people isn't very safe either is it?

john, it may be unsporting in your eyes, but in others, its thrill. its like the rush when you have a deer at full draw but you have to wait to shoot. your heart is in your throat and the feeling is great. this is like that on a larger scale. you know that if you dont kill that lion or cape buffalo or elephant that you're dead. we can't knock some other type of hunting just because we dont like it. i guess i can't explain as good as i wish i could. go read some Peter Capstick. he gives his reasons for hunting dangerous game in his books.

slayer

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johnch, how well do you think you would shoot if you had a full grown wounded male african lion charging you. true the one guy did not follow up his first shot to put it down
but the men with him were there for that exact reason, that is why they are profesional hunters they get paid good money to keep their clients safe.

as for needing more gun try guessing the guage of the ph's rifles, i think its enough to stop a lion. &@!! they stop buffalo. im sorry that you think that people that pay to hunt are unsafe, computer geeks, that have nothing else to do but screw around, and try to get them selfs killed with stupid actions, but no do you think that is how hunting realy is why dont you go and bow hunt a cape buffalo. its harder than you think.

try it, tell us all the story if you can make the kill you want to now whats hard this is a pic of my uncle Dave

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if you dont belive me look up bison on google

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That is crazzy!!!! I think that I will make that same note.

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The first time I saw this video on big-boys.com it was lambasted by a hundred expletive throwing liberal bunny huggers. When I started reading this thread I started wondering if it were the same people.

While I have not been to Africa (YET), I am obsessed with it's game and oppurtunities. I have read countless books and articles on African hunting from the 19th century to current 21st century. I talk to everyone I can that has actual experience from there. So I think I understand this video a little better.

Deerslayer: I have to agree with you and would like to add a few things. People have criticized the size of the hunting party. What I see is a client, possibly another client, the Professional Hunter, the PH's assistant, and a cameraman. A Professional Hunter is required, not optional.

The lion is a mature male with a fine looking mane. A trophy to be sure. The kill fee on this animal alone runs about $25000. The kill fee is your license, not what the guide charges. This is also why they didn't try to shoot him "between the eyes".

The rifle caliber has also been speculated on. From everything that I have read, .375 H&H is the minimum required by law.

About the clothing, not just that this is standard in Africa, but some African countries do not allow camo of any kind.

As far as the number of shots, I liken this to what a personal defense shootout would be like. Surely you all have seen the video of the shootout with two troopers and a perp in a Blazer. Everyone empties their guns and no one gets hit. I can see these two situations being very similar.

Bottom line, before a person is overly critical he should have some insight instead of jumping to assumptions.

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That there was one lucky SOB!!!! Sure appeared as if he was going to be kitty food!!!!....;)