whos deer....really?
#1
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: michigan
Posts: 30
whos deer....really?
hey i had a thought today just figured id get other opinions. my question is god put these animals on this earth for us. what gives the government the right to charge us all this money for hunting lic..? i understand it goes towards the state but really. i have about 50-60 dollars into lic..this year. i dont have a problem with bag limits and laws but why am i paying for a lic...when their my deer or your deer.....just a thought. i do thank god though to be able to enjoy hunting.
#2
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: victoria, australia
Posts: 156
RE: whos deer....really?
Your dead right on that one mate, we get charged to hunt here as well but does the goverment do anything to help manage the deer??. NO. they just sit back with there hands out saying you want to hunt, you pay the price, the can get stuffed.[:@]
#5
RE: whos deer....really?
what gives the government the right to charge us all this money for hunting lic..?
Look at what happened to deer,Elk and Turkey populations when hunting weas virtually unregulated. Without hunting license fees these animals would be non existant.
I have 68 dollars into my license this year. That is for a whole year of hunting and fishing I spend $40 just to take my wife and two kids to the Chinese buffet.
#6
RE: whos deer....really?
While some of the money is used for CO's, NR's dept, Education and Development of habitats,etc...it is nothing more than a tax grab. I call it a leisure tax as it is not mandatory of all citzens but only those who take leisure in pursuing the activity. If all the money was returned to Natural Resources than I would be tickled, but I know that ain't true for my area. I simply grin and bare it! [:@]
#7
Fork Horn
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Little Rock,ARK USA
Posts: 249
RE: whos deer....really?
In some ways I agree with you, but in other ways I dont. By the early 1900s, before there was any kind of wildlife management, the deer population in Arkansas (where I live) was "hunted" almost to extinction. The same applied to Missouri, Louisiana, Mississippi, etc. I say "hunted" because it wasnt really hunting. Before govt controls, many people did not use fair chase practices and slaughtered deer (and other game) indiscriminately. I have found many historical accounts of many such instances. One example I'll never forget was a time when there was a deep snow with a crust of ice on top that made it very difficult for deer to move, but dogs could run on top of the ice with no problems. Several hunters used their dogs to round up hundreds of deer and and they slaughtered them all just for fun. I've also found accounts of people killing a hundred deer or more by shooting from the train on trips from Memphis to St. Louis.
Bottom line is, mankind needs controls.
Bottom line is, mankind needs controls.
#8
RE: whos deer....really?
I am a very down to earth person and belive in fairness, and what is right is right. I dont mind the man made laws to keep the game populations up, but i dont want to pay the government when you got federal employees making a 6 figure salary working 40hrs a week and doing nothing becuase they are part of some county club who takes care of only certain people! I just watched that movie walking tall with the "rock" in it, and that movie is how things should be!
#10
RE: whos deer....really?
If we looked at everything with that additude this world would go to he// in a handbasket quick. God put these trees on this world for us right? I should be able to cut down whatever I feel like. Well, if this was true there would be alot of woodlands that would be decimated. These fish are my fish, God put them here for us right? I should be able to set up a net at the bottom of the stream and take what I want right? Well, there goes all the fish in a matter of weeks. And I shouldn't have to pay a cent to take them right? Well, there goes all of the land our money would have protected to the next developer who thinks the stream would look real neat next to some nice houses. I shouldn't have to pay to shoot deer right? Well, once again there goes the billions of dollars that buy all of our public land. There goes the thousands of game wardens that help put a stop to poaching. There goes any form of quality deer management that may be in place. Their goes all of the money that goes into studying wildlife and managing their habitats. You would never know how many deer should be taken to control herd population. You would never know how many deer were harvested. You would never know if the area you live in has the means to support a larger herd. Imagine what our cities and towns would be like if there wasn't any money to pay police officers. Now imagine our wildlife if there weren't and game wardens. I would say that hunting would become a thing of the past without them so I for one have no problems whatsoever paying to ensure the future of this great way of life. Now I live in Pa so I can only speak for me, I'm not sure how the money is distributed in other states.