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gamehunter1269 07-03-2004 03:54 PM

RE: What happened???
 
That sounds like a gut shot

trmaker 07-04-2004 05:24 AM

RE: What happened???
 
It is nearly impossible to tell where the deer was hit for sure. I do have a question for you though. Was the rounds you were using, reloads? The reason I am asking is that my sister was using Sierra reloads and in her 243 they were breaking apart on impact causing more of a schrappnel wound than an actual bullet wound. She hit a deer behind the front shoulder and we found pieces of the round from its neck to its guts. The round she fired grazed a rib on the way it and thats what blew the round apart.

Deerslayer_37 07-05-2004 09:31 AM

RE: What happened???
 
TR, I dont think the fact they're reloads has anything to do with teh bullet. With a light bullet traveling at high speeds, it tends to fragment when hitting something hard. It's good if the pieces of teh bullet bounce around the inside of the deer because it causes alot of internal damage. The Sierra bullets you're speaking of probably aren't very strong..sounds like varmint bullets almost..I shoot Hornady Interbonds, as those things wont break up very easily. I would say gut shot..i've gut shot like 3 deer, all 3 didnt go more than 20 yards. they were does though, i dont know how a large buck woudl react. I think if you hit them hard enough with a high powered rifle bullet in the guts it will kill. Im not condoning gut shots either. one of the worst places to hit a deer. I think if i had one shot on a huge buck and didnt care about meat a whole lot i would shoot for the hind quarters. With a high powered rifle bullet or a shotgun slug, you can break the pelvis and make sure that deer ain't going anywhere. alot of arteries too to take out in the hindquarters.

slayer

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Deerslayer_37 07-05-2004 02:11 PM

RE: What happened???
 
Don't give me that BS of what the deer deserves. Why should i have to shoot it in the heart or lungs? Yeah, the deer is going to eventually die. But a lung shot deer could run a few hundred yards. I hit my 140" 9 point in the hind quarters, not on purpose, but it dropped him on the spot. a 220 pound field dressed deer dropped on the spot. Had i hit him in the lungs, he probably could have went 200 yards up the creek in terrible tracking conditions. I hit my 6 pointer this year in the front of the hind quartesr on a 260 yard running shot. It hit several main arteries and broke the front of the pelvis, dropping the deer on the spot and killing him almost instantly. Why should this not be considered a good shot? just because it ruins some meat. I can shoot does if i need meat that bad. I'm gonna make claims to justify or validate because i think that it is a very quick death for the deer. If had a record class buck that would only give me an ass shot, im going to take that shot where you think its ethical or not. "oh gee, this world record class buck walked by but i didnt have a shot at his lungs or heart so i let him keep strolling down the path to go frolick happily with his friends." And dont say you wouldnt take that shot either. I aim for the heart and/or lungs everytime i shoot a deer. But if thats a slob buck and i dont have a front quarters shot, im taking out his rear vitals. A deer can't move with a busted up pelvis and blood spewing all over internally.

slayer

JimboHunter1 07-05-2004 02:41 PM

RE: What happened???
 

"oh gee, this world record class buck walked by but i didnt have a shot at his lungs or heart so i let him keep strolling down the path to go frolick happily with his friends." And dont say you wouldnt take that shot either.
I can say that I, for one, wouldn't take that shot. If the lungs and heart aren't available, I'd certainly take a neck shot, no problem. It the deer doesn't allow a neck shot, it's walking. No hind quarter shots for me. Let him live to see another day instead of blowing all of the meat out of his @ss. That's being a game hog.

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dchannam 07-05-2004 11:30 PM

RE: What happened???
 

ORIGINAL: Deerslayer_37

Don't give me that BS of what the deer deserves. Why should i have to shoot it in the heart or lungs?

slayer
Atitudes like this are why hunters in general are less and less tolerated in society, taking marginal "just gotta get it shots" which "may" drop an animal humanely only because you need bragging rights to that huge rack is very poor ethics. My belief is you should have more of a reason to kill than just a trophy, if you cant eat whats left, you wasted the animals life.

rybohunter 07-06-2004 06:43 AM

RE: What happened???
 
Wow lots to comment on this one.
You don't want a small light bullet fragmenting upon impact when shooting at deer sized game.
You have to be the 1st person I've ever heard that didn't want to shoot a deer in the lungs for fear it may run too far.
260 yd running shot.....no comment
Why does the size of the rack determine the level of shot selection?
If you want to go around popping deer in the HQ's, fine, but don't braodcast it over the internet and make yourself and other hunters look really bad.

Tazman 07-06-2004 07:49 AM

RE: What happened???
 
Deerslayer please do all ethical hunters a break and don't advocate shooting a deer in the hindquarters as an ethical shot to take if the deer is a big buck! I have a feeling that you have lost an awfult lot of deer that you will not mention here, especially when you mention taking 200 + yard running shots!


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