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mtair 12-05-2003 05:08 PM

RE: New York Deer Hunting
 
i hunt in 3h sullivan co. i shot a nice 8 ptr. opening day,saw plenty of small bucks and does.i think that where i hunt there is little hunting pressure any more.the road i park on to get to my stand had only 3 trucks on it opening day .15 years ago there would have been 10 or so. but every where i turn everybody is asking where are the deer as the population as a whole is declining.

tj_cubin 12-05-2003 08:48 PM

RE: New York Deer Hunting
 
I havent seen a buck yet this season, and it ends P.D.Q. I hunt in a couple places in 6G (jefferson county). Around here i think the huters are to blame for the low population, I mean the hunters who take ALOT more deer then legally allowed.

Clint. 12-05-2003 09:07 PM

RE: New York Deer Hunting
 
I live and hunt mostly in 6c....east of Lake Ontario. I took a doe with the bow and a buck with a rifle this year. I stoppped deer hunting after that due to spousal pressure! I was told that the freezer was already full. Generally, in my area, it has been boom or bust. Agricultural areas seem to hold more deer. The "big woods" areas have been somewhat of a bust for many hunters I know.

KimberRuger..."I' ve hunted the same 500 +/- acres in Mayville, NY (Lake Chataqua area, near the Erie PA border) for over 20 years."

My daughter and son in law live in that area...not far from Jamestown....near the small community of Gerry. They will be having our first grandchild this spring....so I have a lot more reason to visit. I was hoping to do some hunting down there, but you don't sound too optimistic about things there. I was interested in the bow season. Beautiful area!

I agree with some others here. DEC is too slow to respond to the needs of hunters and to the reality of field conditions here. Bureaucratic mess!

The so called "nuisance permits" continue to anger me. I talked to a farmer yesterday who was given 6 of them. So far, he has been unable to fill any of them. He has not had the opportunity. If the deer aren't there, why are they handing out the permits? They are abused by some...they are used in other areas. This same farmer....and many others...are given these nuisance permits...but their land is posted up tight against other hunters. The rationale that is used in handing out the permits....that deer are damaging crops....if these farmers are truly concerned about crop damage, then why not allow hunters to hunt their land? The reality is....some of it is just plain greed...they want permission to harvest as many deer for themselves as possible...and some are doing just that.

Hopefully DEC will respond in an appropriate manner to reverse the current situation here in NY...but it will probably be later than most of us would like.

Clint

franke 12-05-2003 09:24 PM

RE: New York Deer Hunting
 
I hunt a wooded area in Eastern Orange County(3P).The Forest Manager advised me that the acorn crop was poor this year,and the deer count is down. The deer take has been down also. Me,I did'nt see a tail in 8 days of hunting.
I think that the poor weather affected me,more then most.
Frank

moose1915 12-06-2003 02:08 AM

RE: New York Deer Hunting
 
i keep hunting logs for the past 10 years. this season has shown over 50% less deer sightings for myself. Also, i have a circle of about 40 hunters i talk to daily (i own a tavern) and out of all these guys only 7 have seen scrapes in the woods this year. i personally only saw one, and that was the 1st day of bow season!
I am just now beginning to see rubs, but still no scrapes. i know the deer are around, (tracks , droppings) but i can't believe the lack of rut activity here in the capital district. these are areas that usually have the woods torn up by bucks by the opening of turkey season!
deer overpopulation my a$$!
moose

NY Bowhunter 12-06-2003 05:53 AM

RE: New York Deer Hunting
 

I sounds like it's time to start doing some yote hunting in some area's.
13 yotes and counting this season.

clint,
I couldn't agree more. "nuisance tags" are a joke. The DEC is so ready to hand them out too. I would bet that 90% of these tags given out are for no other reason than you stated. So cooter and the boys can shoot as many deer as they can. That's a shame and I can't believe the DEC doesn't see it. Actually they probably do but like you said will wait until there is 2 doe running around all of NYS.

Clint. 12-06-2003 06:49 AM

RE: New York Deer Hunting
 
Ny Bowhunter...I have been interested in Coyote hunting, but have never done it. I know some local hunters who hunt them with dogs. Is that the method you employ, or do your use calls to bring them in?

Curious, Clint

Clint. 12-06-2003 06:53 AM

RE: New York Deer Hunting
 
NY.....

"nuisance tags" are a joke. The DEC is so ready to hand them out too. I would bet that 90% of these tags given out are for no other reason than you stated. So cooter and the boys can shoot as many deer as they can.

Hey, I know of one family who gets those tags. They have a large heated treehouse and a huge baitpile. They have even rigged floodlights so they can extend their "hunting" hours. They are a joke. Yep...a whole bunch of cooters!

Clint

NY Bowhunter 12-06-2003 07:11 AM

RE: New York Deer Hunting
 
clint,

I shoot them when they walk by my stand while deer hunting. That's my technique lol. Its' scary how many there are to be seeing them in plain daylight like that. Sounds a little discomforting walking out of the woods at night in my area.

dukedieter 12-11-2003 12:23 PM

RE: New York Deer Hunting
 
It was the weather. I own 40 acres in Steuben County 8T. I took 2 weeks off for deer season and then continued to hunt everynight after work. I had groups of hunters in from all over, including most from Mass. Everybody got deer but me the first week. Each night in town at the local tavern the talk was nobody was seeing or taking any deer. The local DEC Officer said, it was because the deer had already grown their winter coats and it was way to warm for them to move around with these on. I had game cam out all season, and sure enough I had new deer pic's everynight. No pic's at all during daylight hours. Thanksgiving day/weekend it was in the 70's here. I drove down the road and seen heads sticking out of the golden rod fields. Too hot for them to move. The third week snow came and cold temperatures. I started seeing Bucks and Does during daylight. On Monday, Dec 8th, the next to the last day, I took my buck. Had taken a doe the day before, and one the day before that, and one the day before that. Tuesday the last day roads around here were flowing with blood and drags all over the place. A guy from Buffalo took a nice doe from my place. He hadn't seen anything for 3 weeks where he hunts. It was the snow and the cold. Wednesday my muzzleloader hunters arrived and within 10 minutes, scored! Total take on my 40 acres so far is 8 bucks, 10 does. Game Cam is still out and showing more bucks each night, some as early as 2:00 pm in the afternoon. Note: Don't give up till the last day ! Hint : It was also the moon phase. I'm now an expert on that, since having a game cam. Feel free to write me. [email protected] PS I guided 15 different hunters this year.


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