2 3/4 inch vs 3 inch buck for deer
#11
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2014
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I am just going to throw this out there, after being friends with countless gunsmiths and having a gun shop for yrs!
shooting slugs thru any TIGHT choke can and has damaged MANY shotguns over the yrs, and its been known to happen also with 00 buck shot too,
so,. honestly, I wouldn;t suggest shooting it thru any choke tighter than a modified choke!
YES folks do it, and many have ZERO problems, , BUT you can flip that too, and some HAVE had problems using tight chokes son buckshot and slugs!
your gun, your life, your call
I am just providing INFO, no BASH< or hate here, just giving advice from experiences I know of and have seen when things go wrong!
and I 100% fully agree with the BEST round will be found by TESTING in YOUR gun at ranges you expect to be shooting at, this way you KNOW what shoots best, as accuracy counts more than brand or size of the lead
a round in a NON vital is a round in a non vital, and can result in a lost deer!
doesn't matter the size of it! still have to hit vitals to kill cleanly!
shooting slugs thru any TIGHT choke can and has damaged MANY shotguns over the yrs, and its been known to happen also with 00 buck shot too,
so,. honestly, I wouldn;t suggest shooting it thru any choke tighter than a modified choke!
YES folks do it, and many have ZERO problems, , BUT you can flip that too, and some HAVE had problems using tight chokes son buckshot and slugs!
your gun, your life, your call
I am just providing INFO, no BASH< or hate here, just giving advice from experiences I know of and have seen when things go wrong!
and I 100% fully agree with the BEST round will be found by TESTING in YOUR gun at ranges you expect to be shooting at, this way you KNOW what shoots best, as accuracy counts more than brand or size of the lead
a round in a NON vital is a round in a non vital, and can result in a lost deer!
doesn't matter the size of it! still have to hit vitals to kill cleanly!
#12
Spike
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#13
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Thanks for all the replies. I'll try to post a picture of the patterns when I pattern them. The 2.75 inch 00 buck is Cheap wal-mart estate brans shells. The 3 inch 00 buck is Remington Magnum Buckshot. As for slugs, I have a few shells, but only enough to sight in. I'm using a 12 ga Remington 870 w/ 28 inch vent rib barrel w/ Modified or Full choke. The only other barrel I have for it is a 21 inch "Turkey" barrel with extra full choke(.687) Both are smoothbore. P.S. would Mod or Full be better with 00 buck ( I know patterning is everything but which would be better for the large pellets)
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2014
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what choke are you using?
too tight a choke can constrict things as they leave the barrel and cause erratic patterns, this is why most ammo company's recommend for slugs and buck shot to be in a cylinder/improved cylinder choke, so not to effect them as they leave the bore!( or a rifled choke for slugs)
and NO at 30 yards wind shouldn't effect buck shot, unless its like hurricane winds LOL
Point of aim also will change when you go to different loads, so, every time you switch you may have to fine tune to new round of choice, and this can vary from brand to brand on same size shot in shell!
too tight a choke can constrict things as they leave the barrel and cause erratic patterns, this is why most ammo company's recommend for slugs and buck shot to be in a cylinder/improved cylinder choke, so not to effect them as they leave the bore!( or a rifled choke for slugs)
and NO at 30 yards wind shouldn't effect buck shot, unless its like hurricane winds LOL
Point of aim also will change when you go to different loads, so, every time you switch you may have to fine tune to new round of choice, and this can vary from brand to brand on same size shot in shell!
#15
Spike
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Join Date: Oct 2020
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what choke are you using?
too tight a choke can constrict things as they leave the barrel and cause erratic patterns, this is why most ammo company's recommend for slugs and buck shot to be in a cylinder/improved cylinder choke, so not to effect them as they leave the bore!( or a rifled choke for slugs)
and NO at 30 yards wind shouldn't effect buck shot, unless its like hurricane winds LOL
Point of aim also will change when you go to different loads, so, every time you switch you may have to fine tune to new round of choice, and this can vary from brand to brand on same size shot in shell!
too tight a choke can constrict things as they leave the barrel and cause erratic patterns, this is why most ammo company's recommend for slugs and buck shot to be in a cylinder/improved cylinder choke, so not to effect them as they leave the bore!( or a rifled choke for slugs)
and NO at 30 yards wind shouldn't effect buck shot, unless its like hurricane winds LOL
Point of aim also will change when you go to different loads, so, every time you switch you may have to fine tune to new round of choice, and this can vary from brand to brand on same size shot in shell!
#16
Nontypical Buck
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if you have a different choke, try that ans see if things get better or worse, , its all about finding out what your gun likes, a combo of choke and ammo/load, every gun can be different, so only true way to know is sending rounds down range inas much of a controlled set up as possible, a good rest consistent ranges and so on!
try enough sooner or later you find the one that works best
try enough sooner or later you find the one that works best
#17
Spike
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Join Date: Oct 2020
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if you have a different choke, try that ans see if things get better or worse, , its all about finding out what your gun likes, a combo of choke and ammo/load, every gun can be different, so only true way to know is sending rounds down range inas much of a controlled set up as possible, a good rest consistent ranges and so on!
try enough sooner or later you find the one that works best
try enough sooner or later you find the one that works best
#18
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Nov 2014
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again, I DON":T recommend shooting buck shot or slugs thru a full choke, but do as you feel safe!
and well, Maybe have to buy more, maybe of a different brand to see ?
as if you cannot find more, pattering them is rather MOOT, no, as what will you hunt with if they worked ?? LOL
and to be honest to get a FAIR HONEST assessment of a load, you need to be firing 3 shots and getting a base line from the same rest and position and range IMO!
JUST shooting one, doesn't mean anything to me!, but again, not everyone is the same! and YES I know ammo costs money, never said it was a cheap game, but to do it right, there is a process to follow if you wish for the best results!
and well, Maybe have to buy more, maybe of a different brand to see ?
as if you cannot find more, pattering them is rather MOOT, no, as what will you hunt with if they worked ?? LOL
and to be honest to get a FAIR HONEST assessment of a load, you need to be firing 3 shots and getting a base line from the same rest and position and range IMO!
JUST shooting one, doesn't mean anything to me!, but again, not everyone is the same! and YES I know ammo costs money, never said it was a cheap game, but to do it right, there is a process to follow if you wish for the best results!
#19
Spike
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Join Date: Oct 2020
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again, I DON":T recommend shooting buck shot or slugs thru a full choke, but do as you feel safe!
and well, Maybe have to buy more, maybe of a different brand to see ?
as if you cannot find more, pattering them is rather MOOT, no, as what will you hunt with if they worked ?? LOL
and to be honest to get a FAIR HONEST assessment of a load, you need to be firing 3 shots and getting a base line from the same rest and position and range IMO!
JUST shooting one, doesn't mean anything to me!, but again, not everyone is the same! and YES I know ammo costs money, never said it was a cheap game, but to do it right, there is a process to follow if you wish for the best results!
and well, Maybe have to buy more, maybe of a different brand to see ?
as if you cannot find more, pattering them is rather MOOT, no, as what will you hunt with if they worked ?? LOL
and to be honest to get a FAIR HONEST assessment of a load, you need to be firing 3 shots and getting a base line from the same rest and position and range IMO!
JUST shooting one, doesn't mean anything to me!, but again, not everyone is the same! and YES I know ammo costs money, never said it was a cheap game, but to do it right, there is a process to follow if you wish for the best results!
#20
Spike
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Thanks for all the replies. I'll try to post a picture of the patterns when I pattern them. The 2.75 inch 00 buck is Cheap wal-mart estate brans shells. The 3 inch 00 buck is Remington Magnum Buckshot. As for slugs, I have a few shells, but only enough to sight in. I'm using a 12 ga Remington 870 w/ 28 inch vent rib barrel w/ Modified or Full choke. The only other barrel I have for it is a 21 inch "Turkey" barrel with extra full choke(.687) Both are smoothbore. P.S. would Mod or Full be better with 00 buck ( I know patterning is everything but which would be better for the large pellets)