Hunting partner - what to do
11-06-2019, 06:33 AM
#21
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 9
The way I read/remember it, didn't sound like any stealing. Him and his friend found a stand some trespasser gave away. His ex friend put it in his own car when they left and I didn't hear any declarations the OP cared or wanted to keep it. Probably let his ex friend carry it all the way out of the woods, put it in his car and take it home. Now he is practicing his break up lines on the internet he wishes HE had it.
And the stand issue is not really what its about, I have plenty of those. It was just one of many disrespectful things. I don't see it as stealing because I was there and did not say anything
11-06-2019, 08:31 AM
#22
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 2,358
Sounds to me that he isn't into hunting but killing and him killing is all that matters. That's not a hunting friend. I've had one like that, actually came as a friend of a friend. He always got mad if someone else shot a deer, would grab the first decent spot when we scouted, then get mad if we later found a better spot and he already had hung his stand. We actually discussed going on an outfitted WT hunt once, with bows, the place had a 125 pt minimum. End result was we didn't go, one reason was he stated he was shooting whatever he wanted an would gladly pay the fine.
I actually bowed out since he was related to my friend (who WAS a good hunting partner), and figured friend vs family is not a good decision to put him in.
I actually bowed out since he was related to my friend (who WAS a good hunting partner), and figured friend vs family is not a good decision to put him in.
11-06-2019, 11:19 AM
#23
Fork Horn
Join Date: Sep 2016
Posts: 141
Just some background first. This is my 3rd year hunting. My folks purchased about 40 acres so I started and have really enjoyed it so far
I have a friend who has been hunting a long time that I have taking out a good bit over 3 year, whitetail and turkey. He has taught me some good things and appreciate it, however here is a list of things that has been bothering me and its not enjoyable hunting with him because of
1. He took probably one of the better spots on land and would probably get mad if asked him to sit at another spot
2. We found a nice stand from previous owner, he took the stand to his other land and never asked
3. I had a nice buck on trail camera so he set a camera up and wants to keep throwing out bait
4. He wants to put a food plot out next year ( but near his stand)
5. He keeps asking to go up to land without me
6. Turkey hunting, he will not let me do any calling, because I suck right, and he is great
7. I had a chance to shoot a nice gobbler, but he wanted to try to call in 2 at a time to both shoot
We got into last week and he is mad, but I believe it would probably be better just to cut ties now. I don't want to lose as friend because we have been friends long time. Anyway just wanted to vent and get some thoughts
Thanks
I have a friend who has been hunting a long time that I have taking out a good bit over 3 year, whitetail and turkey. He has taught me some good things and appreciate it, however here is a list of things that has been bothering me and its not enjoyable hunting with him because of
1. He took probably one of the better spots on land and would probably get mad if asked him to sit at another spot
2. We found a nice stand from previous owner, he took the stand to his other land and never asked
3. I had a nice buck on trail camera so he set a camera up and wants to keep throwing out bait
4. He wants to put a food plot out next year ( but near his stand)
5. He keeps asking to go up to land without me
6. Turkey hunting, he will not let me do any calling, because I suck right, and he is great
7. I had a chance to shoot a nice gobbler, but he wanted to try to call in 2 at a time to both shoot
We got into last week and he is mad, but I believe it would probably be better just to cut ties now. I don't want to lose as friend because we have been friends long time. Anyway just wanted to vent and get some thoughts
Thanks
11-06-2019, 11:55 AM
#24
Fork Horn
Join Date: Oct 2019
Posts: 454
I have a 40-acre piece of hunting land (two actually, and another 20) that I hunt. I bring friends, or my kids, but we always hunt together. When my friend hunts, we agree up front to either divide the quarry by region, or one of us gets the right of first refusal. We never separate except on the rare instance where I'm trying to drive game to him. Kids always get first rights.
This guy sounds like a slug. As a fairly new hunter myself, I can appreciate your desire to have a mentor, but a true mentor would go with you to help YOU hunt, not get himself some goodies. Even after only six years of hunting, I'm personally more than happy to let my guest shoot - its fun either way.
If you lived up here, I'd say let's get together and be inexperienced as a team!
This guy sounds like a slug. As a fairly new hunter myself, I can appreciate your desire to have a mentor, but a true mentor would go with you to help YOU hunt, not get himself some goodies. Even after only six years of hunting, I'm personally more than happy to let my guest shoot - its fun either way.
If you lived up here, I'd say let's get together and be inexperienced as a team!
11-07-2019, 12:32 AM
#25
Spike
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 22
I agree with the others that he's not treating you like a friend should.
I do think there are a couple of things you might consider though.
If you are going to cut him off this year that might be a little harsh. I can imagine having my license bought, my plans made and my hopes up only to be told I can not hunt - almost at the last minute.
That would be a crushing blow and may make him vindictive.
If you two already have your plans made it might make his selfishness a little more tolerable if you know this is his last hunt with you and you tell him AFTER this hunt that next year he won't get to go.
Another thing that comes to mind is the deer plot.
If he has a tractor, plow and disc or tiller and is willing to use it on the plot, that is not a thing to be taken for granted.
If that is the case you might tell him he can hunt if he does the plot but you two are going to swap stand locations. And mean it!
If he has no equipment it's a different story.
Ultimately it is all about standing up for yourself which reading between the lines it doesn't sound like you've done enough of with him.
I do think there are a couple of things you might consider though.
If you are going to cut him off this year that might be a little harsh. I can imagine having my license bought, my plans made and my hopes up only to be told I can not hunt - almost at the last minute.
That would be a crushing blow and may make him vindictive.
If you two already have your plans made it might make his selfishness a little more tolerable if you know this is his last hunt with you and you tell him AFTER this hunt that next year he won't get to go.
Another thing that comes to mind is the deer plot.
If he has a tractor, plow and disc or tiller and is willing to use it on the plot, that is not a thing to be taken for granted.
If that is the case you might tell him he can hunt if he does the plot but you two are going to swap stand locations. And mean it!
If he has no equipment it's a different story.
Ultimately it is all about standing up for yourself which reading between the lines it doesn't sound like you've done enough of with him.
11-07-2019, 03:17 AM
#26
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: south eastern PA
Posts: 15,436
Good grief man, a little harsh!! The guy should be told post haste to gather up his gear and hit the road. Why would you worry about being harsh to an a-hole like his so called friend?. The best way to remove a thorn is quickly. What is with this woosey poosey don't hurt his feeling crap I am seeing here. You cannot stand up for yourself and be a wuss! Who cares if the clown has made plans, he can make different plans, especially since his plans do not include the guy who owns the property, all he does is order him around on his own land. Dump him now and quickly! I am still waiting to see if the OP has made a decision yet.
11-07-2019, 04:29 AM
#27
Dominant Buck
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: On an Island in Vermont
Posts: 22,605
I agree it isn't like you are making it so he can't hunt. Lots of people do very well hunting on their own land....land that their taxes pay for. In other words federal or state land. Plenty of it if someone is willing to do a little work.
11-07-2019, 05:35 AM
#28
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 9
Yea he has other places to hunt, so not cutting him off. And I do have access to equipment for a plot, so not worried with that either
I actually spoke to him last weekend a little, as he was bugging me about checking his camera. I told him then that I was going to hunt alone during muzzleloader, which is usually best for rut here, and I wanted a chance to harvest the nice buck. And that we could both go back 'sometime' during rifle. He was pissy, so haven't really spoke to him since. I should see him in person soon, I plan on discussing then rather than texting
I actually spoke to him last weekend a little, as he was bugging me about checking his camera. I told him then that I was going to hunt alone during muzzleloader, which is usually best for rut here, and I wanted a chance to harvest the nice buck. And that we could both go back 'sometime' during rifle. He was pissy, so haven't really spoke to him since. I should see him in person soon, I plan on discussing then rather than texting
11-07-2019, 09:25 AM
#29
Spike
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Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 9
He has some other hunting spots so not worried with that. Also I have access to equipment for plot
I did speak with him last weekend and stated I wanted to hunt muzzleloader alone, as that is best time to harvest the buck I am looking for. Even stated we could both go back during rifle. He was pissy so have not really spoke since. I should see him soon and talk to in person rather than text about all this. I am not worried about it anymore, everyone has helped me make my choice. If he does come back its my way or highway
Thanks!
I did speak with him last weekend and stated I wanted to hunt muzzleloader alone, as that is best time to harvest the buck I am looking for. Even stated we could both go back during rifle. He was pissy so have not really spoke since. I should see him soon and talk to in person rather than text about all this. I am not worried about it anymore, everyone has helped me make my choice. If he does come back its my way or highway
Thanks!
11-07-2019, 12:23 PM
#30
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: south eastern PA
Posts: 15,436
He has some other hunting spots so not worried with that. Also I have access to equipment for plot
I did speak with him last weekend and stated I wanted to hunt muzzleloader alone, as that is best time to harvest the buck I am looking for. Even stated we could both go back during rifle. He was pissy so have not really spoke since. I should see him soon and talk to in person rather than text about all this. I am not worried about it anymore, everyone has helped me make my choice. If he does come back its my way or highway
Thanks!
I did speak with him last weekend and stated I wanted to hunt muzzleloader alone, as that is best time to harvest the buck I am looking for. Even stated we could both go back during rifle. He was pissy so have not really spoke since. I should see him soon and talk to in person rather than text about all this. I am not worried about it anymore, everyone has helped me make my choice. If he does come back its my way or highway
Thanks!