Whitetail Craziness
12-13-2018, 01:58 PM
#42
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: WI&UP
Posts: 751
I don't know for sure, if they handle deer different. But typically any time you put in a claim, it leads to the possibility of rate increases. Also increased rates based on where you live.
On the other hand, I am tired of hitting deer, or the brakes. So I am a little different than some sportsman. I don't care if you go out for 10 minutes and don't get a deer. Same goes for wolves. I want to manage them, and want them less bold, but I still want them around to eat deer.
Personally I think many hunters have a list of excuses for why they didn't get a deer, but don't look at themselves.
On the other hand, I am tired of hitting deer, or the brakes. So I am a little different than some sportsman. I don't care if you go out for 10 minutes and don't get a deer. Same goes for wolves. I want to manage them, and want them less bold, but I still want them around to eat deer.
Personally I think many hunters have a list of excuses for why they didn't get a deer, but don't look at themselves.
12-14-2018, 10:25 AM
#43
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Marriottsville, Maryland
Posts: 1,058
"The Dirty Secret of Indiana's Declining Deer Herd"
http://www.wildindiana.com/declining-deer-herd
"High deer numbers to me are important, they keep hunters interested in the sport, more importantly, children.
Indiana's deer managers have to walk a very tight rope. They are constantly under pressure from insurance companies and the Department of Transportation to reduce the number of car-deer accidents. They get pressure from farm lobbyists to curtail crop damage caused by our state's wild ungulates. The money trail is loud and clear."
http://www.wildindiana.com/declining-deer-herd
"High deer numbers to me are important, they keep hunters interested in the sport, more importantly, children.
Indiana's deer managers have to walk a very tight rope. They are constantly under pressure from insurance companies and the Department of Transportation to reduce the number of car-deer accidents. They get pressure from farm lobbyists to curtail crop damage caused by our state's wild ungulates. The money trail is loud and clear."
12-14-2018, 12:38 PM
#44
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: south eastern PA
Posts: 14,768
Just more of the same from you. You do not know a thing. First you blow off about MD and insurance companies with nothing but conjecture, then you got your little fingers on the key board googling to try to find some support for the tripe and you managed to find someone else as clueless about reality as you looking for someone to blame because they aren't tripping over deer and find another clueless individual In Indiana to support your fantasy. Your problem is you wouldn't know deer management from raising a field full of deer. Deer numbers are reduced to keep the numbers in line with the habitat, not because the insurance companies are lobbying Game agencies to reduce deer. Once again, insurance companies do lobby for less deer, they simply raise insurance rates in areas with a higher deer/auto collision numbers and continue on making a profit.
12-14-2018, 02:34 PM
#45
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: WI&UP
Posts: 751
"The Dirty Secret of Indiana's Declining Deer Herd"
http://www.wildindiana.com/declining-deer-herd
"High deer numbers to me are important, they keep hunters interested in the sport, more importantly, children.
Indiana's deer managers have to walk a very tight rope. They are constantly under pressure from insurance companies and the Department of Transportation to reduce the number of car-deer accidents. They get pressure from farm lobbyists to curtail crop damage caused by our state's wild ungulates. The money trail is loud and clear."
http://www.wildindiana.com/declining-deer-herd
"High deer numbers to me are important, they keep hunters interested in the sport, more importantly, children.
Indiana's deer managers have to walk a very tight rope. They are constantly under pressure from insurance companies and the Department of Transportation to reduce the number of car-deer accidents. They get pressure from farm lobbyists to curtail crop damage caused by our state's wild ungulates. The money trail is loud and clear."
Just more of the same from you. You do not know a thing. First you blow off about MD and insurance companies with nothing but conjecture, then you got your little fingers on the key board googling to try to find some support for the tripe and you managed to find someone else as clueless about reality as you looking for someone to blame because they aren't tripping over deer and find another clueless individual In Indiana to support your fantasy. Your problem is you wouldn't know deer management from raising a field full of deer. Deer numbers are reduced to keep the numbers in line with the habitat, not because the insurance companies are lobbying Game agencies to reduce deer. Once again, insurance companies do lobby for less deer, they simply raise insurance rates in areas with a higher deer/auto collision numbers and continue on making a profit.
I have no proof, so that makes are opinions just as valuable. But I suspect there is more to managing deer then just how many deer per square mile you got. They issue crop permits to slaughter deer, cause they are eating the crop people use to feed their family. Also people dying from hitting deer, is not good thing either.
I have hit a few deer. It is no fun.
Non hunters don't care about hunters seeing lots of deer with little effort. They are citizens too. There are many things to balance in life.
I realize instead of coming up with counter points you will just say something insulting, without any content.
12-14-2018, 02:38 PM
#46
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: WI&UP
Posts: 751
I realize googling the DNR is probably poo pooped on/ Feel free to say this is not true, cause you don't agree.
They can then estimate the numbers that may be harvested to keep populations at healthy levels that are socially acceptable to both hunters and nonhunters alike.
Negative Social and Economic Impacts of Deer While the positive economic impacts of deer hunting and deerrelated recreation are impressive, not everyone views Wisconsin’s deer population as an asset. Deer are associated with some significant problems, including: agricultural damage deer-vehicle collisions commercial forestry damage damage to ornamental plants airport safety issues spread of disease.
They can then estimate the numbers that may be harvested to keep populations at healthy levels that are socially acceptable to both hunters and nonhunters alike.
Negative Social and Economic Impacts of Deer While the positive economic impacts of deer hunting and deerrelated recreation are impressive, not everyone views Wisconsin’s deer population as an asset. Deer are associated with some significant problems, including: agricultural damage deer-vehicle collisions commercial forestry damage damage to ornamental plants airport safety issues spread of disease.
12-14-2018, 02:44 PM
#48
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: WI&UP
Posts: 751
In case you don't acknowledge WI as part of the union.
People in PA are scared of deer
Public Safety Encounters with aggressive deer are not uncommon in urban and suburban areas where deer and people interact frequently. These encounters are almost always associated with the fawning and breeding season. Does are highly defensive of their young and have been know to attack unsuspecting dogs and people who get too close to their fawns. In the fall, bucks in breeding condition with hard antlers and high levels of testosterone can cause significant harm, even death.
https://www.pgc.pa.gov/Wildlife/Wild...Management.pdf
People in PA are scared of deer
Public Safety Encounters with aggressive deer are not uncommon in urban and suburban areas where deer and people interact frequently. These encounters are almost always associated with the fawning and breeding season. Does are highly defensive of their young and have been know to attack unsuspecting dogs and people who get too close to their fawns. In the fall, bucks in breeding condition with hard antlers and high levels of testosterone can cause significant harm, even death.
https://www.pgc.pa.gov/Wildlife/Wild...Management.pdf
12-14-2018, 02:55 PM
#50
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: WI&UP
Posts: 751
Probably not going to believe this cause from dot gov IN
https://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/file...eport_2017.pdf
Indiana’s deer management strategy was changed from the goal of general deer reduction to a strategically targeted plan to balance ecological, recreational, and economic needs of the citizens of Indiana.
https://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/file...eport_2017.pdf
Indiana’s deer management strategy was changed from the goal of general deer reduction to a strategically targeted plan to balance ecological, recreational, and economic needs of the citizens of Indiana.
