Whats the punishment for poaching in mn?
 

I looked on the dnr site but couldnt find anything. NO i am not weighing the risk and trying too see if its worth it. I had someone I know get caught and I am just curious too what the punishments are.

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If you know someone that got caught he problably wont get what he deserves.

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why wont he get what he deserves? Are they not hard on poachers? And whats me knowing him have too do with anything?

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Nothing .
But consider the company you' re keeping .

It' s hard to think about , but statistics bear it out . Once a poacher , always a poacher . Sad but true .

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He should get death by firing squad. He should have to supply the ammo and gun.

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In Arkansas they get hung next to the Deer they shot " poached" .:D

Troy

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Poachers never get what they deserve and most get away with it for a long time before getting caught, then continue to do it despite the punishment. They ruin it for the real hunters, including you. In short, the puinshment is insufficient. He should never be allowed to hunt (legally) again.

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Sometimes it depends on how much poaching that he did and he will lose his hunting rights for a few years and if he also hunts out of state he will not be able to hunt that state that has a agreement with the state of MN. for instance Idaho has this kind of deal w/MN so if he hunts in that state he will not be able to hunt it for the same amount of years. And he will be fined and/or will do some jail time. And he can also lose his bow and rifles.

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I know of a guy that got busted for hunting this U.S Army National Guard area. You can hunt this place but you have to sit through a special class since it is the military' s. I also hunt here, very nice place.

He was bowhunting and was being watched the whole time by a MP using a spotting scope. The guy shot the deer and then the MP went to get him, after that the MP called the Game Warden. The only thing the Game Warden did was give him a fine and let him keep the deer! What the heck is this. I always heard they can take all the gear,rifle,bow, your truck whatever you have at the time you where hunting away from you and give you a hefty fine. Oh yeah he did loose rights to hunt that WMA/Army grounds for 2 years along with the fine.

Troy

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who said I kept his company? I said it was someone I know. I dont hang out with this person!

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I think the punishment is relative to the crime. It depends on how severe the crime was. For instance, the person mentioned above about getting a fine for hunting on this U.S Army National Guard area, right there the warden may have thought that his only real crime was not taking the prerequisette course before going hunting, so he only gave him a fine. But say you get caught taking a deer out of season with no license in an animal refuge (I know, obvious he has no license if it is out of season & on an animal refuge...:)), then the warden may be more extreme with him, like take his gun and anything else that aided him in his crime, and send him to court. A lot of it is the wardens call. If you took an " antlerless" (MN definition of an antlerless is any deer that has spikes less than 3" ), that had antlers that measure 2-7/8" , then the warden may be a little leanient of him. Basically my point is the punishment will fit the crime. I have no pity or respect for poachers but sometimes mistakes do happen to honest people.

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i' m sorry but i have to defend him on this one(Forestore).....i know a guy that was busted....matter of fact he is kinda related to me and that didn' t stop me from telling the fwc officer all about him....the guy knew he was doing wrong, he knew i wasn' t the only one that was telling them, he thought he was better than the rest of the poachers out there and he wouldn' t get caught....was i guilty just because i hung out with him.....NO....not at all.....
now if he didn' t do anything and he knew he was poaching , well then yeah , you' re just as guilty, but if he didn' t have anything to do with it, well then he should have his own label.....
i can also see how one might assume that you' re part of it for asking the question....might let' s all keep an open mind......

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my dad used to poach, he did it so he could feed his brothers and sisters. and when he didnt need to poach anymore, he didnt. so all you jackass' jumping to conclusions about this guy and what a bad perosn her is, try informing yourslef as to why he was poching.

thats just ignorant..

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I' ve been hunting with a college friends brother for the last 10 years, really like his company. His brother told me 3 years ago that his brother had been busted for poaching when he was a kid (17 I think) Since I had already formed an oppinion of this person, learning this fact didn' t change the way I feel about him. He was a kid, made a mistake, and had to pay for his crime. He is a law abbiding citizen and has learned from his mistake. I don' t buy the once a poacher - always a poacher.

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Um, I' m sorry, but if the guy was poaching to feed his family, and it was a horrible misunderstanding, I' m pretty sure the guy would have said something in his defense. C' mon, be realistic - you really believe this is a guy who had any justification at all?

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There are many ways to get food and assistance without breaking the law.

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Is the person poaching to eat the deer or poaching to get a big rack or just for the thrill of it? To me there is a difference. Some people do not like to receive government assistance and would rather solve their own problems and provide for their family. I personally have more respect for a person like that than an idiot that comes down and shoots a deer for a showpiece then doesn' t use the meat.

I have seen deer hang in trees for a week of 60 degree weather and get rained on and rot, then they are taken out and thrown away. The first year wisconsin had its T-zone I stopped at the town dump and there was a nice doe laying there with a rope tied around her neck, the registration tag wasn' t there but someone shot her and didn' t want to use the meat, the person should have been strung up by their nuts. The above is repeated hundreds of times a year in every state don' t kid yourselves. I also don' t care for the people that process their deer and then have it laying in the freezer for the next year and wind up throwing it out so they have room for the next one. Why kill it? Let it walk if you' re not going to use it or give it to someone that will. The biggest, toughest buck can still be processed, ground and put into burger, sausage etc.
Poaching a deer is one heck of a risk and I don' t advocate poaching at all, situations are different and I look at them differently not all lumped together.

There is a crime (IMO) right now going on in wisconsin, with the upcoming deer season people are going to be throwing deer away left and right that are perfectly edible but the DNR will have dumpsters set up to get rid of your deer even though 99% are ok. They have dumpsters outside of the CWD area as well. That is a huge waste in my opinion. I guess I was brought up differently, you eat or use what you shoot or let it walk. The ones that are shooting deer and throwing them away(unless the deer is obviously sick) are not hunters, to me they are killers. There is a difference to me. I would rather see someone shoot one and use it than shoot one just to brag that they got it.

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You know that poaching for food crap doesn' t wash with me because it may start out that way, then when the guy isn' t on hard times its poaching for racks.I guess some of you feel its ok to rob a bank if your short on money.What a load of b.s!Poachers ruin the sport of hunting for all of us and when poeple defend it I take offence.Sorry if some of you know poachers that got caught but if they or you want a sympathetic ear you came to the wrong board.

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well he wasnt poaching for racks because the two deer were fawns! Yes, its still wrong, but dont assume everyone is looking for trophies. In his case, I think it was the thrill.

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just to let you know i was NOT advocating poaching at all....just that you can' t judge a person because of another....and that poaching for food, is a crock.....if the season is closed, go fishing.......

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First poaching is a crime, but there are degrees of severity to each crime ie. man one, volutary manslouhter etc.
Steeling is a crime, but there is huge differnce of steeling your neighour' s apples and robing someone at gun or knife point.
We can just hope that the game wardens exercise their authority with fairnes to the law obiding hunters, land owners and the poachers as well.
And to be fair the min. and max penalties should be well publicized, and I don' t think their are, so very often the offender is not even awere of the severity of his crime and possible penalty.

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not in the 40' s and early 50' s in the back woods of kentuky


again, your assuming....

and just to add fuel. if you walk into the woods and it is 10 min till leagal shooting time and you see a shooter, would you take? damn right you would. and isnt that what poaching is?

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Not wanting to take sides hear but just thought i would chime in a little.

Maybe that was how it was in the 40' s 50' s but this is 2003 i cant speak for everywhere but i know you can get a doe tag here in kansas for $10 i think even someone hard up for money can swing that for 50lbs of meat. And as for severity of the crime, it is very much a judgement call anyone who can honestly say they have never broken a game law deserves a standing ovation. Some of the laws are too confusing to not slip up once.

Im guilty, last year is shot a deer, it ran 100 yds jumped the fence and died when it landed. It just so happens that the fence was the property line, and yes i did hop over and pull him back. That was tresspassing so i will leave the light on for the warden tonight.[>:]

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Most of the Wardens I know today and have known of or known of in the past have a pretty good understanding of what is going on in their patrol area. They have a pretty good idea of who is poaching and who is not and they also know the circumstances of what is going on. Today’s welfare state with easy access to food stamps etc. is not the same as it was in the mid 1900s. That said, today there is little excuse for poaching with providing food for the family as an argument. Most poaching today is for profit. Even fawns are poached for mounts to be sold on the ever-expanding market for such " Trophies" .
There seems to be some misunderstanding on here about just what the Wardens do when a poacher is caught. The Warden does not confiscate anything except for those articles needed as evidence in court. The Warden makes an arrest or writes a ticket requiring the violator’s appearance in court at a particular time and date.
A Judge then makes the determination as to what fine or punishment is to be meted out. This could, depending on the state, include a monetary fine, confiscation of guns, fishing equipment, vehicles, and loss of hunting/fishing privileges and/or time in jail.

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I don' t about poaching but a few years ago the game warden in the area that I am from walked up on a guy that was fishing. The guy got up and ran. The game warden shot him in the back. It didn' t kill him. I never did hear what came out of the whole thing.

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Sorry for butting in here but..

Aren' t you assuming there yourself?? I know I wouldn' t shoot.

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You know eastwood not everyone is picking on you I know you feel especially sensitive on this issue because your dad poached when he felt he had too ,and I' m sorry he felt he had no way out.Now in todays world you don' t starve to death if you don' t poach so don' t piss down my back and tell me it' s raining.

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In Minnesota, the state and DNR officials have put a dollar figure on game animals that are taken illegally, as a way to " hurt" that sort of activity. The dollar amount changes with different animals. With fish, it' s $100 each fish over the limit. With big game such as deer, I believe the dollar figure is $1000 per animal. If actually caught in the " act" of poaching, the state can also take your vehicle(if you transported or attempted to transport the animal), weapons, decoys,guns, etc that were used or connected with the crime. The state may also take your hunting/fishing priveledges away for up to 5 years depending on the offense. Any repeat offenses, means stiffer $$$ fines,jail time, and possible lifetime hunting/fishing priveledges revoked. If the offense occured on any federal land, then the feds can get in and also prosecute. I live in very " rural" northern MN. I don' t want to say poaching is a way of life, but it' s something that happens often. It' s not uncommon to hear rifle shots at midnight year round. I don' t practice or agree with this activity, but accept it as what it is. happy Hunting! Steve

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Whatever the punishment it' s not enough. Usually a gentle slap on the wrist. [:@]

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Well I have to say that if in the 40' s and 50' s in the back woods of Ky it was poaching then my dad and all of his bothers were poachers at that time. They use to kill squirrles to eat. They live way back in the woods and if they couln' t kill it or raise it then they would starve. They raise what farm animals that they could but it took money to buy them to raise. They would catch ground hogs and raise them and then eat them. So where does that leave us? Are we all poachers?? When they got older then they would buy there hunting licenses and tags. ONe thing...they would eat what they killed. Nothing went to waste. Just my 2 cents worth.:D

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exactly what im trying to say here. except they raised tobacco, they have a couple mules to plow, but not really any other animals. it was a different world back there and back then. and if i had to do it, i would not be ashamed to say that i would be right there in the mix whackin anything that moved.

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Raised tobacco huh? so they were spending all of there money on smokes just like some welfare recipeants do today.:D Im just kidding you eastwood. I think the majority of us agree that things were different back then and the situations were much different but i also believe that the majority thinks things have changed and that excuse in not legitament anymore.

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i agree with that. however, he took me back there in the late 80' s and i have to say that it wasnt much different. we drove back on a gravel road for a good 15 miles before we passed a house. " a" house.. one... it was your typical out in the middle of nowhere, tire hangin from a tree, kids out front with no shoes or shirt staring at you as you drove by, broken screen door, couch on what was left of the porch, small field in the back of the house, true backwoods. then about another 5 or 10 miles we came to what was left of the house (shack) he lived in with his 13 brothers and sisters. between the first house and his house we passed a school/church, and a fork in the gravel road where every halloween they would cut down a tree to block the road ( so the sheriff coundlt get back) there and steal a neighbors chicken and cook it over a fire where the road forked. thats not really relative to the story, but just to give you an idea. so anyways, not much had changed between the time he grew up there and when i had visited the place (aprox 40 years) its now 2003 about 15 years since. you would think that its the year 2003, there are ways to be assisted when in need. i agree, but i would also bet that there are still people living that way, and it doesnt make them unethical or criminals. its just thier way of life. thats my opinion........