My Bad Boy Experience
08-20-2016, 10:11 AM
#1
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 17
My Bad Boy Experience
I have just now joined this forum, in hopes of getting some help/advice on my situation, as well to inform others and learn more about deer hunting and maybe get into Elk Hunting. I am not for sure if this is in the correct section, if not, if an Admin would or tell me how it would be appreciated. I just figured as deer hunters many of you would find this useful. We bought a new 2016 Bad Boy Buggy Ambush Is in December and these are the problems we have had with it. The company or dealer isn't being any help.
On the 1st night that the dealer delivered it the buggy wouldn’t crank/turn over in gas mode. The next day another member in our club helped us get it to crank by jiggling wires and filters.
2nd day we took it down one of our club trails in electric and it would not crank in gas to be put into 4wd. It later would not go forward or backward in electric which left us stranded for about 15 minutes while we turned the switch and buttons on and off, jiggled wires,etc.
3rd day We took it to the Eastern section of our property down a logging road which is all electric to go hunting that evening. Upon us getting back to the buggy at nightfall, the buggy would not move in electric so we had use gas while we discovered that we did not have any headlight. Therefore, we had to drive approximately 5 miles back to camp with a flashlight. The rest of the season we had to travel using a flashlight and auxiliary lights to travel, and we didn’t feel comfortable traveling far from camp.
The next day the parking brake came loose so we had to take it to our dealer. When we took it to our dealer, he said that we shouldn’t use the parking brake unless we were on a steep hill. We had to adjust the parking brake handle twice afterwards ourselves and then adjust the rear parking break caliper cable.
2 weeks later we found out why the gas wasn’t wanting to crank/turn over sometimes. We found a disconnected plug going from the switch to the starter. We reconnected it and it started up in gas. In late January, we took it to our dealer to have him fix the headlights. He had to replace a 48-volt converter, and which fixed the headlights, taillights, and 12-volt outlet.
We brought it back home to North Ga from South Ga and the next problem we had was when we were driving it around at home and the front right cv shaft started popping. When we turned to go around a curve it blew out of the boot and we almost flipped, with grease and ball bearings falling everywhere. It would not go anywhere in electric, so we drove it up on the trailer. When we told Bad Boy Buggies and our dealer whom we purchased it from that it broke, they told us to take it to our nearby dealer and they would fix it. We took it to. They said it would be 1.5 to 2 weeks before they could get around to looking at it, which we were fine with. They ended up ordering the front right cv shaft and strut assembly and it took them 2 months before they got it fixed so we could pick it up. When we got it back we noticed that it was leaning to the left on the back side and the front right strut assembly was higher than the left side. We took it off the trailer and then the front right cv shaft blew out again. When we jacked the front end up, we realized that while the wheel was connected to the body, there wasn’t anything to prevent the tire from rotating side to side.
As we loaded it on our trailer, we discovered that we didn’t have any normal foot brakes. We then drove 200 miles to take it to our original dealer (which said that he would fix the brakes, cv joint, strut assembly, and measure where the buggy was leaning to the left and where the right strut was higher than the left one. When we got it back two weeks later he said that he fixed everything, and that there wasn’t anything wrong with the brakes except that there was a little bit too much fluid even though we never added any. He said that he measured the buggy and everything was level. We took it to our hunting club 70 miles away, and when we went to take it off the trailer, it didn’t have any brakes and it rolled backwards off the trailer. When we called the dealer the next day, he said that everything was working when it left his place and suggested that we bled the brakes and check the fluid. We did that and they were working fine, and we went riding down one of our club roads and didn’t have any brakes which caused us to loose control and nearly flip when we had to dodge a tree, while we ran into a briar patch. We topped the fluid level back off and brakes started working intermittently. Now the cart is leaning to the left and the left hand front cv boot is ripped apart and the right front cv joint is popping again. We brought it back to North Ga and parked it in our storage building. We then measured the front side and the strut on the right is 2 inches taller than the left hand side even though the tire on the right side 1-2 inches lower on the right side.
Since it first arrived we have noticed that the front cv joints/axles are at an angle whereas our other members’ same year model and make bad boy buggies as well as the one at Bass Pro Shops goes straight out from the motor to the wheel. Ever since the first month we have tried to get Bad Boy Buggies and our dealer () to buy it back because it is a lemon. Bad Boy Buggies says that the dealer would be responsible for giving us a refund. Our dealer said that Bad Boy Buggies would be responsible for refunding our money. All they will ever say is that they can fix it if we take it to them. We have had so many breakdowns that we decided to buy a $80 technicians/service repair manual. It has been broken down for over 4 months and this is will just be month 7 of us owning it. It has had us scared to death that we would get in the woods and leave us stranded. It has always been very tippy and it seems prone to want to roll over. It will only go 10 miles on a charge our hunting land. What would you do or have any past experience with anything similar to this. I hate having a one ton 15k paperweight sitting in my garage.
Disclaimer: This is MY experience, dealing with the dealers and people that we have. This is MY Bad Boy Buggy that I own. Yours may not give you any problems and may be the best hunting vehicle you have ever had, but this is to inform others of MY experience. Have a blessed day, Hancock Hunter
On the 1st night that the dealer delivered it the buggy wouldn’t crank/turn over in gas mode. The next day another member in our club helped us get it to crank by jiggling wires and filters.
2nd day we took it down one of our club trails in electric and it would not crank in gas to be put into 4wd. It later would not go forward or backward in electric which left us stranded for about 15 minutes while we turned the switch and buttons on and off, jiggled wires,etc.
3rd day We took it to the Eastern section of our property down a logging road which is all electric to go hunting that evening. Upon us getting back to the buggy at nightfall, the buggy would not move in electric so we had use gas while we discovered that we did not have any headlight. Therefore, we had to drive approximately 5 miles back to camp with a flashlight. The rest of the season we had to travel using a flashlight and auxiliary lights to travel, and we didn’t feel comfortable traveling far from camp.
The next day the parking brake came loose so we had to take it to our dealer. When we took it to our dealer, he said that we shouldn’t use the parking brake unless we were on a steep hill. We had to adjust the parking brake handle twice afterwards ourselves and then adjust the rear parking break caliper cable.
2 weeks later we found out why the gas wasn’t wanting to crank/turn over sometimes. We found a disconnected plug going from the switch to the starter. We reconnected it and it started up in gas. In late January, we took it to our dealer to have him fix the headlights. He had to replace a 48-volt converter, and which fixed the headlights, taillights, and 12-volt outlet.
We brought it back home to North Ga from South Ga and the next problem we had was when we were driving it around at home and the front right cv shaft started popping. When we turned to go around a curve it blew out of the boot and we almost flipped, with grease and ball bearings falling everywhere. It would not go anywhere in electric, so we drove it up on the trailer. When we told Bad Boy Buggies and our dealer whom we purchased it from that it broke, they told us to take it to our nearby dealer and they would fix it. We took it to. They said it would be 1.5 to 2 weeks before they could get around to looking at it, which we were fine with. They ended up ordering the front right cv shaft and strut assembly and it took them 2 months before they got it fixed so we could pick it up. When we got it back we noticed that it was leaning to the left on the back side and the front right strut assembly was higher than the left side. We took it off the trailer and then the front right cv shaft blew out again. When we jacked the front end up, we realized that while the wheel was connected to the body, there wasn’t anything to prevent the tire from rotating side to side.
As we loaded it on our trailer, we discovered that we didn’t have any normal foot brakes. We then drove 200 miles to take it to our original dealer (which said that he would fix the brakes, cv joint, strut assembly, and measure where the buggy was leaning to the left and where the right strut was higher than the left one. When we got it back two weeks later he said that he fixed everything, and that there wasn’t anything wrong with the brakes except that there was a little bit too much fluid even though we never added any. He said that he measured the buggy and everything was level. We took it to our hunting club 70 miles away, and when we went to take it off the trailer, it didn’t have any brakes and it rolled backwards off the trailer. When we called the dealer the next day, he said that everything was working when it left his place and suggested that we bled the brakes and check the fluid. We did that and they were working fine, and we went riding down one of our club roads and didn’t have any brakes which caused us to loose control and nearly flip when we had to dodge a tree, while we ran into a briar patch. We topped the fluid level back off and brakes started working intermittently. Now the cart is leaning to the left and the left hand front cv boot is ripped apart and the right front cv joint is popping again. We brought it back to North Ga and parked it in our storage building. We then measured the front side and the strut on the right is 2 inches taller than the left hand side even though the tire on the right side 1-2 inches lower on the right side.
Since it first arrived we have noticed that the front cv joints/axles are at an angle whereas our other members’ same year model and make bad boy buggies as well as the one at Bass Pro Shops goes straight out from the motor to the wheel. Ever since the first month we have tried to get Bad Boy Buggies and our dealer () to buy it back because it is a lemon. Bad Boy Buggies says that the dealer would be responsible for giving us a refund. Our dealer said that Bad Boy Buggies would be responsible for refunding our money. All they will ever say is that they can fix it if we take it to them. We have had so many breakdowns that we decided to buy a $80 technicians/service repair manual. It has been broken down for over 4 months and this is will just be month 7 of us owning it. It has had us scared to death that we would get in the woods and leave us stranded. It has always been very tippy and it seems prone to want to roll over. It will only go 10 miles on a charge our hunting land. What would you do or have any past experience with anything similar to this. I hate having a one ton 15k paperweight sitting in my garage.
Disclaimer: This is MY experience, dealing with the dealers and people that we have. This is MY Bad Boy Buggy that I own. Yours may not give you any problems and may be the best hunting vehicle you have ever had, but this is to inform others of MY experience. Have a blessed day, Hancock Hunter
08-20-2016, 10:55 AM
#2
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Illinois
Posts: 3,695
All I can say to your experience is you seriously need to learn how to deal with mechanics and dealers.
First off, when the dealer or delivery guy, whoever, dropped it off, your very FIRST thing you should do is check the vehicle over while they are there. If you discover a problem, which from your story you did, you do NOT accept delivery.
Next was your experience with the dealership mechanic. When you go to pick up a vehicle from ANY mechanic, you check and test the vehicle right there. NOT when you get it home! This is simple common sense. Granted you got yourself a lemon, but most of your difficulties are the result of your own actions. On your next venture, learn from your mistakes and check over and test any vehicle you are buying while in the presence of whomever you are purchasing it from. Same goes for a mechanic. I work on all my own cars, trucks, ATV.s and motorcycles so the only person I can blame is myself but when it comes to buying, I thoroughly go over every detail of the vehicle before I lay down any money.
First off, when the dealer or delivery guy, whoever, dropped it off, your very FIRST thing you should do is check the vehicle over while they are there. If you discover a problem, which from your story you did, you do NOT accept delivery.
Next was your experience with the dealership mechanic. When you go to pick up a vehicle from ANY mechanic, you check and test the vehicle right there. NOT when you get it home! This is simple common sense. Granted you got yourself a lemon, but most of your difficulties are the result of your own actions. On your next venture, learn from your mistakes and check over and test any vehicle you are buying while in the presence of whomever you are purchasing it from. Same goes for a mechanic. I work on all my own cars, trucks, ATV.s and motorcycles so the only person I can blame is myself but when it comes to buying, I thoroughly go over every detail of the vehicle before I lay down any money.
08-20-2016, 11:10 AM
#3
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 17
All I can say to your experience is you seriously need to learn how to deal with mechanics and dealers.
First off, when the dealer or delivery guy, whoever, dropped it off, your very FIRST thing you should do is check the vehicle over while they are there. If you discover a problem, which from your story you did, you do NOT accept delivery.
Next was your experience with the dealership mechanic. When you go to pick up a vehicle from ANY mechanic, you check and test the vehicle right there. NOT when you get it home! This is simple common sense. Granted you got yourself a lemon, but most of your difficulties are the result of your own actions. On your next venture, learn from your mistakes and check over and test any vehicle you are buying while in the presence of whomever you are purchasing it from. Same goes for a mechanic. I work on all my own cars, trucks, ATV.s and motorcycles so the only person I can blame is myself but when it comes to buying, I thoroughly go over every detail of the vehicle before I lay down any money.
First off, when the dealer or delivery guy, whoever, dropped it off, your very FIRST thing you should do is check the vehicle over while they are there. If you discover a problem, which from your story you did, you do NOT accept delivery.
Next was your experience with the dealership mechanic. When you go to pick up a vehicle from ANY mechanic, you check and test the vehicle right there. NOT when you get it home! This is simple common sense. Granted you got yourself a lemon, but most of your difficulties are the result of your own actions. On your next venture, learn from your mistakes and check over and test any vehicle you are buying while in the presence of whomever you are purchasing it from. Same goes for a mechanic. I work on all my own cars, trucks, ATV.s and motorcycles so the only person I can blame is myself but when it comes to buying, I thoroughly go over every detail of the vehicle before I lay down any money.
Not trying to sound smart eleck Happy Hunting, HancockHunter
08-20-2016, 11:49 AM
#4
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: south eastern PA
Posts: 15,436
The machine was not a "gift" from the "dealer" so you checking out the machine thoroughly before accepting delivery would not be an insult to the person who gifted it to you but it would have been you making sure the person who bought the gift didn't get stiffed! You chose to post your experience online and you should have known there would be comments on your experience. The advice given to you by Super_hunt54 was good advice. Your accepting the gift without making sure it was delivered in the condition it should have been was kind of a kick in the teeth to the person who gifted to you because any conversation you you have with them regarding the gift will be on a sour note or you will have to lie and tell them everything was rosy! Being timid about getting what you should get from a dealer only buys you trouble, as you have already found out. By the way, the term is you don't "look" a gift horse in the mouth, not "kiss' it in the mouth.
08-20-2016, 12:05 PM
#5
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 17
Thank you oldtimr for your response. Afterwards I told the one who got me the gift that we should get the dealer to give us a refund and get it out of our hands, she asked that we just be appreciative and maybe it wouldn't give us anymore hiccups. So I respectfully agreed. And we have asked for a refund since day 5, and the dealer has refused to do so. I was not trying to say that super_hunt45's advice was necessarily bad, just explaining my situation and my actions. Please excuse me for me not knowing how to use a phrase, I'm from Ga. Happy Hunting
08-20-2016, 12:38 PM
#7
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Allegan, MI
Posts: 8,019
It probably would have been best not to have even made your post because all the actions you took from the time you first saw the machine were incorrect actions taken on your part whether you bought it or it was a gift. Rather than coming on the internet telling everyone of your problems that cant help you, IMHO you should have taken the thing back and DEMANDED immediate satisfaction from the dealer and worked your way all the way to the top of the totem pole at Bad Boy Buggies if you had to. You should still do that because that machine sounds like it was a POS from the getgo and nobody should have taken the BS that you have been since day one!
08-21-2016, 03:52 PM
#8
Spike
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 17
It probably would have been best not to have even made your post because all the actions you took from the time you first saw the machine were incorrect actions taken on your part whether you bought it or it was a gift. Rather than coming on the internet telling everyone of your problems that cant help you, IMHO you should have taken the thing back and DEMANDED immediate satisfaction from the dealer and worked your way all the way to the top of the totem pole at Bad Boy Buggies if you had to. You should still do that because that machine sounds like it was a POS from the getgo and nobody should have taken the BS that you have been since day one!
08-21-2016, 05:54 PM
#10
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Allegan, MI
Posts: 8,019
What's to look over if it's been a POS with all kinds of problems since the day you picked it up? Be nice, but tell them it's their obligation to take care of everything or preferably take it off your hands with a replacement. We had a situation where my wife kept telling VW that her car was not having any power when she would go uphill and they kept telling her there was no problem. One day not long after the 3rd or 4th time she had it in it conked out on the freeway near Kalamazoo and it was towed to the nearest licensed place for repairs and the internal fuel tank gas pump had disintegrated. They gave her a bill for over $400 and we found that this same problem was under a recall for VWs, but not on hers. We ended up having to fight them all the way, finally with a letter to the VW President himself, and after about 6 months they sent us a check for the entire amount! If you don't take care of yourself and press companies on stuff like you're having problems with, they will just keep you in limbo because they know most people just give up after a while. Take it in and politely DEMAND satisfaction!