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Question about chokes for buckshot

Old 12-16-2016, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dogbone13
this is why I have been a member 1.5 yrs and have only read others opinions and comments.

if your post isn't 100% in line with another opinion your post will get blasted.

1 post or 2000 post I gave my personal experience and would be glad to talk with you about other buckshot test I have done to make sure when I pull the trigger I am 100% SURE I have done my part to make a ethical kill and not lose an animal.

same with duck hunting pattering steel shot, dove hunting patterning dove loads for absolute best performance I can take to field or water hole.

I am so against losing a wounded animal and this is why I shoot so many different loads at paper and target material to make sure as many variables are taken out of the equation as I possibly can.
Sorry, but I, and others with a vast number of years of experience that have also commented and expressed the same in regards to 70 yard shots at deer with bs know what we're talking about. You may have a load that will pattern decent at 70 yards, but have you looked at the terribly low velocity at that distance compared to what most feel is needed for a humane kill on a deer? I have searched the internet on this subject after reading your reply and found only one person that uses bs that says he shoots it further than 40 yards. His comment was that he will go out to 50 yards, but also that is only at coyotes. Sorry, but when 99.9% of us feel that 40 yards is the approximate maximum distance that bs should be used on deer that is why I called BS on your 70 yard statement.

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Old 12-17-2016, 05:17 AM
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If you look at ballistic charts for 00 Buck you see some interesting things. One thing that becomes immediately apparent is that the pellets shed velocity very quickly. Not surprising because a round shape has the worst ballistic coefficients of any shape. That's why they went to other things way back in the day. Now because the velocity drops that in turn effects the down range energy which then effects the ability to penetrate. most charts show that 00 Buck at 70 yards will penetrate about 3 inches. And that my friends means it isn't adequate to cleanly take game. Now a shotgun can be choked to throw pellets in a tight pattern at 70 yards but that doesn't detract the physics of the actual pellet. Science ban be a bummer sometimes. Not saying a perfect shot in the ribs would allow the pellets to get the lungs but throw any bone or dense muscle into the equation and you're talking a different thing.

Additionally you really can't aim buckshot because of the spread. You direct it but you don't aim it. Another thing to consider is that not all the pellets get to the target at the exact same time. They are sort of strung out in a line because they shot column is longer that the diameter of the bore. So if a deer is moving the pellets won't all hit the shoulder area, assuming that is the target. Due to flight time some will hit farther back.

One last comment is that many people simply suck at estimating ranges. My bet is that deer dropping cleanly at "70" yards are probably a lot closer. Go to a football field sometime and stand on the goal line and put something 70 yards away. It's a pretty fair distance especially in the field and most time buckshot is used where the cover is heavier and I've never seen the possibility of a 70 yard shot in heavy cover but admit I haven't hunted everywhere.
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Old 12-17-2016, 10:07 AM
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Good post flags and exactly why bs should be kept within about 40 yards!
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