Originally Posted by uncle matt (Post 4222381)

How did the old cowboys keep the barrels of their rifles from getting fouled? All they had to shoot were cast lead bullets and didn't have any Nitro solvent.

Originally Posted by rockport (Post 4222389)

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The bottom line is the rifled slugs will work through rifled or smooth bore barrels although they will likely lead foul a rifled barrel and likely not shoot any better than they would in the much cheaper smooth bore barrel they were designed for.

A Sabot shot through a smooth bore will be terrible and a sabot shot through a rifled barrel will out perform the rifled slugs in either barrel.

Originally Posted by uncle matt (Post 4222442)

I think I'm biased due to my personal experiences with all of my H&R USHs. I bought the first in 1995(?) and shot Remington Copper Solids. It took a lot of slugs to get it dialed in. It would shoot pretty well but getting a big ragged hole from 5 at 100 - 150 just never happened. They killed deer real fine cuz they hit the vital area.

I tried some Brenneke Gold Magnums and my groups were outstanding. Ragged holes became reality. Putting deer down with these was awesome. They hit really hard and I could really deliver a shot where I wanted to. I never went back and my old barrel looks like new. There is no fouling in there and I have never had struggle to clean it or use any special solvents to release lead.



Over the years I have bought 3 more H&R USHs giving me 2 12 gauges and 2 20 gauges. They are all shooting Brenneke and shooting fantastic. In 2007 H&R went to the Ultragon rifling which doesn't have the sharp edges on the rifling and there are 6 lands/grooves and a 1:23" twist. They clean right up too.

Anyhoo. Bottom line is finding whatever each gun fires the most accurately and stick with it. I get a real snicker when guys want to switch to "that new slug" every year or 2(usually a sabot). Advertised as faster......more accurate......more powerful......more knockdown......more money and they usually get all frustrated with worse results from their previous choice.

Originally Posted by rockport (Post 4222463)

Are you telling me you bought 4 slug guns and all 4 shoot sub MOA with rifled slugs?

Originally Posted by uncle matt (Post 4223250)

Not exactly sure what MOA or sub MOA means. I think it means all right in the same hole light Robin Hooding an arrow. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying they all hit close enough to each other to make a hole similar to this first picture. Doesn't happen every single time. Some days you shoot worse or better than others but those are the results the guns are giving. This is mot my picture just one grabbed off internet for an example. And yes sometimes they don't all connect and look like the second picture. Again this is pulled from internet. Pay no attention to whatever is printed on it. The guns are all very capable of absolutely fantastic groups with Brenneke slugs, it is just up to the shooter.







Listen. I don't know what your deal is but I posted here with the intention of offering what I feel is a superb slug, safe for rifled barrels (per info of unquestionably highly experienced and knowledgeable manufacturer) that are more reasonably priced than sabots and offer a gigantic whallop.

People can take what I offered and check it out for themselves if they would like if they feel it is something they might benefit from.

I'm not going to be part of a presidential debate about this with you. I'm not leaving this thread mad, I'm just leaving it. I'll gladly discuss other subjects or topics.

Good hunting.