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super_hunt54 04-09-2015 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by rockport (Post 4193298)
If you are really looking to make something out of hunting videos you are getting some of the worst advice I have ever seen.

I know quite a few people that hunt for a living. Some videoing and some hunting. One thing they have in common is none of them waited until they had been hunting for 40 years and were 50 years old and knew everything to start.

One guy in particular grew up about a mile up the road from me, now he is about 30 and 2 weeks ago was filming and hunting stag in the mountains of New Zealand for Scent Blocker. If he took the advice you are being given he would be working in a factory saving up for his first trip to africa.

No one yet has said he needs to wait till he has 40 years experience under his belt. All of us has said he should LEARN and have CORRECT information as well as a little better videography. Plain and simple.

Uncle Matt, He was NOT "asking" a dang thing other than for us to watch his "informative" video. And when someone comes onto a site such as this, a trading of information and learning site, how could our experience NOT mean a thing? I think you Matt should go back to the very first page of this posting and have another look at what the young man was saying before you jump down mine and others throats. If he was asking anything other than for us to click on his video I sure can't see it.

rockport 04-09-2015 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4193322)
No one yet has said he needs to wait till he has 40 years experience under his belt. All of us has said he should LEARN and have CORRECT information as well as a little better videography. Plain and simple.

Uncle Matt, He was NOT "asking" a dang thing other than for us to watch his "informative" video. And when someone comes onto a site such as this, a trading of information and learning site, how could our experience NOT mean a thing? I think you Matt should go back to the very first page of this posting and have another look at what the young man was saying before you jump down mine and others throats. If he was asking anything other than for us to click on his video I sure can't see it.


IF "he should LEARN and have CORRECT information as well as a little better videography" was really all that was said I would not have even made my comment but that is not all that was said AT ALL.

Uncle Matt is dead on IMO.

choctawbadge 04-09-2015 11:12 AM


Originally Posted by flags (Post 4192893)
Well, I watched the vid. I saw absolutely nothing that I'd call hunting basics. Nothing about tracking, stalking, bullet placement, blood trailing, field dressing, meat packing, trophy care, map reading, compass skills, fire making, wilderness shelters etc...

The only thing you showed that I'd even bother packing is a flashlight and the one you showed is little more than garbage. You want a good flashlight for hunting get a Surefire with the red lens attachment. Are you really trying to say a box cutter is a good type of knife for hunting? You then show broadheads and a trailcam that are still in the package which means you haven't used them. How do you know what will work if it is still in the package. I'd rather see a bunch of well used and well cared for equipment that has been field tested than something still in the package. Why do I need an SD card? I don't think it is possible to kill a deer with one, I can't eat it, I can't start a fire with it, I can't signal for help with it so why would I consider it a basic for hunting?

For what it is worth, I shot my first deer at age 9 in 1972. I've taken over 100 deer and 67 other species of game. I've hunted about 13 states, 2 Canadian Provinces and have made it to Africa 5 times. I'm pretty sure you can't teach me anything about "hunting basics" at this stage of the game. Come back and talk to me in 15 or 20 years.

Perhaps he could teach you humility?

Topgun 3006 04-09-2015 11:19 AM

+1 super hunt54 ---You might as well sign off this thread because all we are doing is talking to the wall! When the kid makes a video like the one he did on the archery forum and tries to tell everyone how great a broadhead is that he's trying to sell, and then turns right around and says he hasn't even had it out of the package to test it, we're fight a losing battle. Then he started getting testy when corrected on some things he stated, but the real winner in that thread was when he then told you, a seasoned veteran, to adjust your aim or quit hunting because you shouldn't be aiming for the ribs/shoulder area to put an arrow in the vitals, LOL! From here on if he posts anything more, IMHO he's going to have a lot of people hitting the ignore button! Here's his gem from that thread:
"I believe that is where you have to hit a deer and if you are hitting a deer in the ribs you need to readjust your bow sight or stop hunting. The broadhead is not designed to go through a rib or shoulder bone... Although I have seen it break it and go through it but back to my point you shouldn't be hitting a deer in the rib because just like you are saying the blade has a better chance of coming off and there will most likely be no blood trail."

flags 04-09-2015 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by choctawbadge (Post 4193330)
Perhaps he could teach you humility?

Wow. A whole 8 posts in 10 years! I have no reason to show any particular respect to a youngster that posts the following to another member:


posted by Outdoor Lifestyle 04/04/2015 09:06pm

acting like a adult unlike super_hunt54 who sounds like an 11 year old girl himself (if he even is a guy)
I'm really concerned about what you think.

outdoor lifestyle 04-09-2015 03:56 PM

If flags and superhunt54 can just do me a favor and ignore me it would be greatly appreciated. No disrespect or anything but I don't care about your opinions anymore or your comments so please ignore me and carry on, it would make my day. I know you both are going to comment and rip me again because that's all you do so please go ahead and then just hit the ignore button. Thank you

Topgun 3006 04-09-2015 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by outdoor lifestyle (Post 4193354)
If flags and superhunt54 can just do me a favor and ignore me it would be greatly appreciated. No disrespect or anything but I don't care about your opinions anymore or your comments so please ignore me and carry on, it would make my day. I know you both are going to comment and rip me again because that's all you do so please go ahead and then just hit the ignore button. Thank you

With that post it's obvious that you are not listening to a dang thing that almost everyone else has also stated on this, as well as your other bungled broadhead thread! You are just starting out and to try and make videos at this stage in your life with a little webcam telling others that have grandkids older than you are and that have been hunting many decades how to do things when you don't even know that a deer's vitals are behind the ribs is an affront to most all of us that have been hunting for years, some as long as 3 times or more than your age! It appeared you began with a polite attitude and wanted to learn, but your nasty little comeback that Flags mentioned and now this post where you are obviously not up to taking criticism does not bode well for you. If you continue to make videos like these first two you posted on this site, you better be prepared for a lot more criticism because that is the only way you'll learn that you have a long way to go before you should be instructing anyone on anything. Now I guess you can come back and tell me to also put you on ignore. Oops, I see you just did that over on the other thread, LOL! :hit:

outdoor lifestyle 04-09-2015 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 (Post 4193362)
With that post it's obvious that you are not listening to a dang thing that almost everyone else has also stated on this, as well as your other bungled broadhead thread! You are just starting out and to try and make videos at this stage in your life with a little webcam telling others that have grandkids older than you are and that have been hunting many decades how to do things when you don't even know that a deer's vitals are behind the ribs is an affront to most all of us that have been hunting for years, some as long as 3 times or more than your age! It appeared you began with a polite attitude and wanted to learn, but your nasty little comeback that Flags mentioned and now this post where you are obviously not up to taking criticism does not bode well for you. If you continue to make videos like these first two you posted on this site, you better be prepared for a lot more criticism because that is the only way you'll learn that you have a long way to go before you should be instructing anyone on anything. Now I guess you can come back and tell me to also put you on ignore. Oops, I see you just did that over on the other thread, LOL! :hit:

If you look at my previous posts I accept my mistakes and explain how I will use them to improve. Please if you don't believe me take a look for yourself. I would appreciate it if you hit ignore like you said you would do. Now you are saying you won't hit it so please make up you mind. I don't need your criticism and help because all you are giving me is useless information and jumping down my throat for no reason. I accepted my mistakes and will work at them as I said but you continue to come at me so I'm personally telling you to ignore me and hit the ignore button.

Topgun 3006 04-09-2015 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by outdoor lifestyle (Post 4193368)
If you look at my previous posts I accept my mistakes and explain how I will use them to improve. Please if you don't believe me take a look for yourself. I would appreciate it if you hit ignore like you said you would do. Now you are saying you won't hit it so please make up you mind. I don't need your criticism and help because all you are giving me is useless information and jumping down my throat for no reason. I accepted my mistakes and will work at them as I said but you continue to come at me so I'm personally telling you to ignore me and hit the ignore button.

I did not say I was going to do that, but did say that I and many others might if you don't grow up quickly and quit acting like a little baby! If you won't take criticism given that was made to help you, then IMHO you are a loser before you even get started! I and the others are not "coming at you", but you are not making this easy on yourself by making the posts you have tonight on both of your threads. As I asked you to do on the other thread, please quit posting for the night and sit back and think about things overnight so you can come back fresh and not act like a big baby!

outdoor lifestyle 04-09-2015 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 (Post 4193369)
I did not say I was going to do that, but did say that I and many others might if you don't grow up quickly and quit acting like a little baby! If you won't take criticism given that was made to help you, then IMHO you are a loser before you even get started! I and the others are not "coming at you", but you are not making this easy on yourself by making the posts you have tonight on both of your threads. As I asked you to do on the other thread, please quit posting for the night and sit back and think about things overnight so you can come back fresh and not act like a big baby!

And I and personally telling you to stop hesitating and please ignore me. You don't have to think about it anymore please block and ignore me.

Topgun 3006 04-09-2015 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by outdoor lifestyle (Post 4193371)
And I and personally telling you to stop hesitating and please ignore me. You don't have to think about it anymore please block and ignore me.

NO!!! Now go to bed like a good little boy, as you're showing you're not mature enough to be with the big boys yet!!

outdoor lifestyle 04-09-2015 06:15 PM


Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 (Post 4193372)
NO!!! Now go to bed like a good little boy, as you're showing you're not mature enough to be with the big boys yet!!

It's like you want to get me mad and want to see what I'm posting so you can personally bust my balls. Please block me so you don't have to be bothered with this like kid big boy.

gjersy 04-09-2015 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by outdoor lifestyle (Post 4193374)
It's like you want to get me mad and want to see what I'm posting so you can personally bust my balls. Please block me so you don't have to be bothered with this like kid big boy.

LOL good reply.

gjersy 04-09-2015 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by super_hunt54 (Post 4192713)
LMAO. Flags, you should watch that vid. His beliefs on "Basic Needs" are pretty sad to say the least. You should watch it if for nothing more than a good laugh. An SD card for basic needs? Young man, before you try to teach something, you should really LEARN about that subject! You have absolutely NO clue whatsoever about what you are talking about. My 11 year old daughter knows more about woodsmanship and hunting than you. But of course she has been raised like I was, in the woods as soon as she had the walking thing down pat :) so she probably has much more experience than you. LMAO@ SD cards and card readers being put in as "basic needs" Lord have mercy thanks for that laugh

This is where the thread took an insulting, demeaning tone. There was no need to attack his person, for a good laugh.

Topgun 3006 04-09-2015 06:45 PM

I agree with your last statement gjersey, and IMHO there were a couple of other posts made that were commented on that were out of line, especially to a youngster. However, in the end after things settled down IMO super hunt54 tried to help the OP here and gave him some "attaboys", as well as trying to do the same on the broadhead thread the kid started, only to be talked down to with absolutely incorrect statements that showed the kid needs to learn before he teaches. If you will look at my posts, I believe overall that I tried to be as polite as I could be and offered what I thought was a good suggestion in how the kid might make an informational video on trail cams to get started on the right track. Tonight IMHO the kid made his own bed by making the snotty posts he did and even though I kept trying to politely tell him to back off and think things over I got nowhere and was also told to put him on ignore along with more snotty remarks. I have a granddaughter his age that is a straight A student all the way through school because she listens and learns from those who know a subject, so maybe I'm expecting too much from this kid. I think a lot may just be a misscommunication in what he was trying to do and things got carried away from there. However, one thing I will not stand for is to be shouted at by a young kid like he did in that other thread a while ago in caps when I politely asked that he sit back and think things over for the night before making any more posts. I guess he can decide whether he'll take the good with the bad and learn something or tell people he doesn't agree with to just go away, but if he chooses the latter he isn't going to get very far in life without some major setbacks.

outdoor lifestyle 04-09-2015 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 (Post 4193380)
You're not helping things one bit with that reply! The kid obviously doesn't want anything but "attaboys" and he isn't going to get them by doing what he's doing. The sooner he realizes that he at least needs to know what he's talking about before he makes a video or a post about archery hunting the sooner he will understand where people are coming from.

What don't you get??? I do realize it!!! You just keep coming at me and attacking me saying what you are saying and are just getting me more and more mad. I'm not looking for "attaboys"'as you are calling them. I keep telling you to block me but you just love busting my balls I guess.

Topgun 3006 04-09-2015 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by outdoor lifestyle (Post 4193381)
What don't you get??? I do realize it!!! You just keep coming at me and attacking me saying what you are saying and are just getting me more and more mad. I'm not looking for "attaboys"'as you are calling them. I keep telling you to block me but you just love busting my balls I guess.

You are now just on here looking for a fight because that comment you quoted here wasn't up for more than one minute and was taken off and edited as a reply to our other member over about a 15 minute time frame after I saw his next post. I also never put up a post here again today until you started with your BS posts late this evening. You need to cool off and do as I politely asked twice before earlier this evening because you're now busting your own balls, not me! I'm done here on both threads for the night and I'd suggest you do the same and think about things like I already asked you to do.

outdoor lifestyle 04-09-2015 07:25 PM


Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 (Post 4193385)
You are now just on here looking for a fight because that comment you quoted here wasn't up for more than one minute and was taken off and edited as a reply to our other member over about a 15 minute time frame. You need to cool off and do as I politely asked twice before earlier this evening because you're now busting your own balls, not me!

You honestly just blew my mind with whatever the hell you just said LOL I needed a good laugh thank you :happy0157:

super_hunt54 04-09-2015 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by gjersy (Post 4193378)
This is where the thread took an insulting, demeaning tone. There was no need to attack his person, for a good laugh.

gjersy, that was carried over from another thread. Some knuckleheads like this kid don't seem to grasp simple and easy concepts so you have to hit them where it hurts to open their eyes. Their EGO! I know a couple of my knuckleheads required a foot in the butt to open up their brains. This kid needs BOTH my size 12's. Go look at this thread before you comment again gjersy

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/bowh...adheads-4.html

Start from the beginning and you will see what Top and Oldtimer and myself are talking about.

flags 04-10-2015 04:00 AM


Originally Posted by outdoor lifestyle (Post 4193354)
If flags and superhunt54 can just do me a favor and ignore me it would be greatly appreciated. No disrespect or anything but I don't care about your opinions anymore or your comments so please ignore me and carry on, it would make my day.

Grow up Little Boy. You come on a forum like this, begging us to watch some video, claiming it has some earth shattering information about hunting basics when it is nothing of the sort. And when you are given what amounts to constructive criticism, you go all pouty! Here's a little newsflash Junior, I teach high school and I deal with kids like you every day. Your entire generation can't handle the fact that you don't know everything and that everyone isn't just going to line up to bow down" to you.

PAY YOUR DUES LIKE EVERY GENERATION BEFORE YOU DID!

gjersy 04-10-2015 01:45 PM

"Superhunt54", I don't want to "go look at this thread again" before i comment! My previous comment is plain & simple, re-read, digest....newbie.

PatriciaSTown 04-17-2015 04:09 AM

Just Dress Appropriately and Score good.
If it's warm, wear layers. You are likely to be cold in the morning and evening and hot during the day. If you are bow hunting, be sure the layers are all camouflaged. Use camouflage pants,drake clothing,georgia boots or lacrosse boots etc. These will Keep your feet warm and you can keep hunting.

gjersy 04-17-2015 09:57 AM

Patricia you r right on with that post!

Topgun 3006 04-17-2015 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by gjersy (Post 4194367)
Patricia you r right on with that post!

Yep, as that sure made more sense than the kids video even though he wasn't referencing clothing as a hunting basic!

flags 04-17-2015 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Topgun 3006 (Post 4194375)
Yep, as that sure made more sense than the kids video even though he wasn't referencing clothing as a hunting basic!

Nope. But he sure had the box cutter down pat!

Oldtimr 04-17-2015 12:39 PM

This is one door that would be best to remain closed, and bolted till the end of time!

gjersy 04-17-2015 03:21 PM

Probably....

JW 04-17-2015 04:21 PM

Gentlemen and ladies.

As of late most of what has been posted here you are better off to use the Private Messaging system.

Thanks
JW

PatriciaSTown 04-19-2015 10:25 PM

The most basic tip that I would like to share for deer hunting is that human odor spooks deer, so always wear scent free cloths and wash with mint soap on the day yo are going to hunt. Because mint will cover all scent.

SteveBNy 04-20-2015 02:59 AM

Mint may hide odor from a human, but not from a deer.

super_hunt54 04-20-2015 11:43 AM


Originally Posted by PatriciaSTown (Post 4194677)
The most basic tip that I would like to share for deer hunting is that human odor spooks deer, so always wear scent free cloths and wash with mint soap on the day yo are going to hunt. Because mint will cover all scent.

That MAY work if you are hunting very close to a blooming mint patch and I stress the word MAY. Otherwise the deer are going to pick up on a scent not native to their habitat and high tail it out of that section. Cover scents or "masking" scents do not generally work. They may help a small bit in delaying the warning but not very much. Wind is both your friend as well as your enemy. Odor neutralizers with anti bacterial agents in them are better as they destroy the actual "odor" molecules that the deer's olfactory system picks up and detects. They nor anything else is 100%.

Oldtimr 04-20-2015 12:21 PM

.Patricia, unless you do not breath, you will never hide your scent from deer. Using mint soap while hunting in an area that does not have mint is introducing a foriegn odor to the area and it will not cover all human scent. I will leave it at that.

flags 04-20-2015 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by PatriciaSTown (Post 4194677)
wash with mint soap on the day yo are going to hunt. Because mint will cover all scent.

I do nearly all my deer hunting in CO. Since there isn't any wild patches of mint anywhere near that, I'm fairly certain that any deer would immediately go on the alert when they smell it.

rockport 04-23-2015 06:22 AM

If there was mint in the air where I hunt why would I need to wear it?


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