Which Buck would you kill.
10-14-2014, 11:56 AM
#31
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,359
As far as I'm concerned, being a trophy hunter doesn't hurt anything. It gives younger bucks a chance to grow a little older. In my area there is a much greater number of does than there are bucks. If I want deer meat I'm getting myself a doe. It's easy meat. For me there is no need to shoot a small buck. My idea of a trophy is 125"+. I don't have many opportunities to chase 170 class deer because they are hard to find. If I waited for something that big I would never bag a buck.
For example I shot a doe first weekend of bow season and I will shoot at least one more after the rut but for the next month I'll be "trophy hunting"
170 is probably a little lofty but it seems like you would have plenty of time to wait for a mature buck and still tag out.....of course assuming that is what you want.
Last edited by rockport; 10-14-2014 at 12:06 PM.
10-14-2014, 12:08 PM
#32
Spike
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 89
If all three were broadside at 20 yards, I'd shoot (right after I crapped my pants) the hole in the horn, just because the mass would point me to his direction first.
I'm an equally opportunity hunter. I can see where rockport is coming from, I'm the same way, i'll try to shoot a doe or two early just to make sure my freezer is full. If a nice buck happens by, i'll take him. Then when late October/Nov hits I shift my goals for at least a 3.5 year old deer. (if I don't shoot them a 3.5 someone pry will around me).
Muley, you don't really leave the rack do ya?
I'm an equally opportunity hunter. I can see where rockport is coming from, I'm the same way, i'll try to shoot a doe or two early just to make sure my freezer is full. If a nice buck happens by, i'll take him. Then when late October/Nov hits I shift my goals for at least a 3.5 year old deer. (if I don't shoot them a 3.5 someone pry will around me).
Muley, you don't really leave the rack do ya?
10-14-2014, 12:17 PM
#33
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,359
If all three were broadside at 20 yards, I'd shoot (right after I crapped my pants) the hole in the horn, just because the mass would point me to his direction first.
I'm an equally opportunity hunter. I can see where rockport is coming from, I'm the same way, i'll try to shoot a doe or two early just to make sure my freezer is full. If a nice buck happens by, i'll take him. Then when late October/Nov hits I shift my goals for at least a 3.5 year old deer. (if I don't shoot them a 3.5 someone pry will around me).
Muley, you don't really leave the rack do ya?
I'm an equally opportunity hunter. I can see where rockport is coming from, I'm the same way, i'll try to shoot a doe or two early just to make sure my freezer is full. If a nice buck happens by, i'll take him. Then when late October/Nov hits I shift my goals for at least a 3.5 year old deer. (if I don't shoot them a 3.5 someone pry will around me).
Muley, you don't really leave the rack do ya?
10-14-2014, 12:22 PM
#34
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
That's quite a bit different from the hunter who hunts for meat, but also enjoys the challenge of getting a mature (not old) buck for the challenge, but could care less about the antlers. He enjoys the hunt more than the kill. He rarely talks about the hunt, and never shows pictures. He enjoys the hunt for himself. This describes how my dad was, and he passed it on to me. So, it also describes me.
10-14-2014, 12:28 PM
#35
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,359
A trophy hunter just hunts for the rack. Whether they eat the meat, or not. They wouldn't consider shooting any buck that didn't have a good rack. Some will hire outfitters to make sure they get a trophy. They also spend a lot of money at a taxidermist. Their hunting life is consumed by antlers. it's all they talk about, and can tell you what a rack measures from 100yds away. For them the hunt means nothing. It's the kill that's important. If they don't kill a trophy the hunt is a failure.
That's quite a bit different from the hunter who hunts for meat, but also enjoys the challenge of getting a mature (not old) buck for the challenge, but could care less about the antlers. He enjoys the hunt more than the kill. He rarely talks about the hunt, and never shows pictures. He enjoys the hunt for himself. This describes how my dad was, and he passed it on to me. So, it also describes me.
That's quite a bit different from the hunter who hunts for meat, but also enjoys the challenge of getting a mature (not old) buck for the challenge, but could care less about the antlers. He enjoys the hunt more than the kill. He rarely talks about the hunt, and never shows pictures. He enjoys the hunt for himself. This describes how my dad was, and he passed it on to me. So, it also describes me.
It sure seems to me your just throwing a bunch of nonsense that really isn't hunting at all under the words trophy hunter.
I don't know much about the critters your hunting but here where I'm at hunting a big rack buck is like adding another species of animal to your hunting list. Its really like its not the same animal at all. I eat the meat, I enjoy the challenge, I love the hunt, I would never even consider hiring an outfitter,I like to talk about the hunt, I show pictures, I enjoy the hunt for myself,and yes I also love big antlers.
Your post is ridiculous as is suggesting choosing to hunt an animal that requires more effort,skill, and time to harvest happens because I hunter enjoys the kill and not the hunt.
Last edited by rockport; 10-14-2014 at 12:54 PM.
10-14-2014, 01:00 PM
#36
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Port Neches, Texas
Posts: 5,514
A "trophy" to me is a good deer for the area that I hunt. I shoot does and eat all of the meat I get too.
Seriously MH, why would you leave the antlers in the woods? In fact, in Texas you must keep the head intact until you reach your final destination! That would make what your saying illegal.
10-14-2014, 01:13 PM
#37
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,359
In the real world trophy hunting means spending hours upon hours upon hours in the field,in all different conditions from blistering cold to swarming mosquitoes,and watching deer walk by without killing them all in pursuit of a much harder to hunt animal.
To even suggest "For them the hunt means nothing. It's the kill that's important" makes no logical sense what so ever.
To even suggest "For them the hunt means nothing. It's the kill that's important" makes no logical sense what so ever.
10-14-2014, 02:01 PM
#39
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
That is very specific. Sounds more like its either your way or the wrong way IMO
It sure seems to me your just throwing a bunch of nonsense that really isn't hunting at all under the words trophy hunter.
I don't know much about the critters your hunting but here where I'm at hunting a big rack buck is like adding another species of animal to your hunting list. Its really like its not the same animal at all. I eat the meat, I enjoy the challenge, I love the hunt, I would never even consider hiring an outfitter,I like to talk about the hunt, I show pictures, I enjoy the hunt for myself,and yes I also love big antlers.
Your post is ridiculous as is suggesting choosing to hunt an animal that requires more effort,skill, and time to harvest happens because I hunter enjoys the kill and not the hunt.
It sure seems to me your just throwing a bunch of nonsense that really isn't hunting at all under the words trophy hunter.
I don't know much about the critters your hunting but here where I'm at hunting a big rack buck is like adding another species of animal to your hunting list. Its really like its not the same animal at all. I eat the meat, I enjoy the challenge, I love the hunt, I would never even consider hiring an outfitter,I like to talk about the hunt, I show pictures, I enjoy the hunt for myself,and yes I also love big antlers.
Your post is ridiculous as is suggesting choosing to hunt an animal that requires more effort,skill, and time to harvest happens because I hunter enjoys the kill and not the hunt.
Good god man!!! Why does everybody take it this way. Where the hell did I mention to do it my way? I'm simply telling you how I do it, because you asked.
Don't ask if you don't want an answer! I don't care how anybody hunts. I do care how I hunt, and it's only important to me.
Please..Please.. Please DON"T DO IT MY MY!!!!!!!
Understand now?
10-14-2014, 02:06 PM
#40
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 9,557
Antlers won't go to waste. Somebody will find them. You are aware that deer and elk leave their antlers on the ground every year. What's the difference if I do it.
The meat is all that's important to me. I make sure I have it all, and don't waste my time hauling out something I can't eat. You ever carried out elk antlers 4-5 miles at 11,000ft up and down the mountains? My energy is better spent getting the meat out.